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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16920 on: January 14, 2018, 02:57:30 am »

At this point, I think a better question to counter the President with is,

"Are you familiar with the plaque beneath the statue of liberty? Do you know what it actually says there?"

Because, "Wretched refuse" is the poetic way to describe "People from shithole countries".

And yeah, we have openly invited them since the turn of the prior century.  Where exactly have you been all this time Mr Trump? Don't tell me, you have been hiding a Mar a lago, pretending the world is a different place from what it actually is, haven't you. 

Well, For a lesson in the actual history of the US, our open door policy concerning the disadvantaged in other nations has resulted in a continual flood of ideas, talent, and culture that has enhanced our nation in every imaginable way.

Hence the plaque. 
Under the statue of Liberty.

But by all means, pretend that this is not the case a little longer. It is quite amusing to watch you sputter like this.
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« Reply #16921 on: January 14, 2018, 03:03:51 am »

But why settled for dirty countries, when you can get immigrants from nice clean whiter-than-white Norway?

Trump has no idea really, if you got Norwegians en masse, they'd bring their filthy Scandinavian socialist ideas with them, like demanding centralized healthcare, meanwhile, most Haitians probably aspire to merely working labor jobs. I can tell you which group would upset the political applecart more.

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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16922 on: January 14, 2018, 03:08:39 am »

There is nothing wrong with immigrants from Norway (But I have to wonder why they would take more than just a few steps DOWN the quality of living slope to move *HERE*), but there is also nothing wrong with immigrants from Haiti.
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16923 on: January 14, 2018, 04:49:51 am »

There is nothing wrong with immigrants from Norway (But I have to wonder why they would take more than just a few steps DOWN the quality of living slope to move *HERE*), but there is also nothing wrong with immigrants from Haiti.

Amusingly enough, I saw an argument elsewhere on the internet where someone was defending Trump, saying that we should restrict immigration to people from places like Norway.  Someone from Norway chimed in and said "No fucking thanks".
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16924 on: January 14, 2018, 10:57:32 am »

I'm fairly sure that they already don't have a huge problem immigrating here if they want. Not that I would know, being a USigan.
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16925 on: January 14, 2018, 12:17:00 pm »

At this point, I think a better question to counter the President with is,

"Are you familiar with the plaque beneath the statue of liberty? Do you know what it actually says there?"

Because, "Wretched refuse" is the poetic way to describe "People from shithole countries".

And yeah, we have openly invited them since the turn of the prior century.  Where exactly have you been all this time Mr Trump? Don't tell me, you have been hiding a Mar a lago, pretending the world is a different place from what it actually is, haven't you. 

Well, For a lesson in the actual history of the US, our open door policy concerning the disadvantaged in other nations has resulted in a continual flood of ideas, talent, and culture that has enhanced our nation in every imaginable way.

Hence the plaque. 
Under the statue of Liberty.

But by all means, pretend that this is not the case a little longer. It is quite amusing to watch you sputter like this.
This is hardly the first time someone has pointed this out, or *had* to point this out.
 
Dennis Miller, of all people, had a rant about this back in the late 90's excoriating the GOP for its growing anti-immigrant stance, saying "If this keeps up, we might as well change the plaque on the Statue of Liberty from 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses' to 'Go the fuck back to Fuckitania'" (Then 9/11, and Miller lost his fucking mind.)
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16926 on: January 15, 2018, 10:19:23 am »

In response to the US army's announcment that it plans to train a Kurdish border patrol force of tens of thousands of soldiers in northern Syria, Turkey now threatens with a military invasion of Kurdish territory in northern Syria.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/opleidingsplan-vs-voor-koerdisch-grensleger-valt-slecht-turkije-dreigt-met-invasie-in-noord-syrie~a4557052/
« Last Edit: January 15, 2018, 10:21:23 am by martinuzz »
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« Reply #16927 on: January 15, 2018, 11:21:13 am »

I don't think Turkey would actually risk confrontation with US troops, though they've definetly clashed with US supported groups. Besides, that autonomous Kurdish region already existed.
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« Reply #16928 on: January 15, 2018, 11:27:14 am »

I reckon there is a difference between untrained autonomous Kurdish rebels and military trained/backed autonomous Kurdish rebels. 
It is very likely those guys will take their military training and leftover military gear to go liberate Kurdistan once this thing with common enemy #1 is dealt with.
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16929 on: January 15, 2018, 11:44:24 am »

Wouldn't turkey have to attack themselves as a nato member?
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16930 on: January 15, 2018, 11:52:47 am »

Wouldn't turkey have to attack themselves as a nato member?
Autonomous Kurds are not part of NATO nor are they officially recognized as an independent country or anything of that sort either. 
It could degenerate into a game of US military personal playing 'human shields', but very unlikely.
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« Reply #16931 on: January 15, 2018, 12:09:29 pm »

Wouldn't turkey have to attack themselves as a nato member?
Autonomous Kurds are not part of NATO nor are they officially recognized as an independent country or anything of that sort either. 
It could degenerate into a game of US military personal playing 'human shields', but very unlikely.

Shooting at any Green Berets hanging out with the Pesh would certainly be attacks against a NATO member, though. From my best reading, for everyone to fulfil their treaty obligations, every NATO country would need to declare war on themselves and every other NATO country. Then Macedonia will stand atop the world, thanking their lucky stars that they're (and the now destroyed by fratricidal interNATO war Greek wastelands) so obstinate about the name.
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16932 on: January 15, 2018, 01:10:40 pm »

Seems a bit strange to make moves that might piss Turkey off in times when Erdogan seem like he wants to buddy up to Putin. Unless they are deliberately trying to provoke Turkey into making a choice between the two?

Meh, I probably shouldn't try to play armchair global politics strategist anyway.
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16933 on: January 15, 2018, 01:30:36 pm »

It's okay, you're probably doing better than the current administration is. It's a new year, anyone can join in on the speculation and even have good odds of figuring out better courses of action! Mostly because they're making pretty hella' shit ones, but hey :V

That said. The current administration being itself, assuming the move has roughly sod all to do with geopolitics might be a good idea. Is pissing off turkey, or whoever, something that will resonate with the solid base of GOP voters? What about send the actors involved into the arms of one group or another that's been shitting out the bribes (putin would more or less count, here, mind you)? If yes, or of a similar nature, you've probably figured out what the people making the decision is actually considering to be of import.

Thinking these chucklefucks are thinking much about stuff like what turkey may or may not do could pretty easily be giving them too much credit, basically.
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Re: AmeriPol: Back to work Congress!
« Reply #16934 on: January 15, 2018, 02:03:50 pm »

Aside from it being a muslim country, I'm not sure what his base's (or Republicans in general) opinion would be on Turkey.

Trump hasn't even changed the US policy regarding the Kurds, in fact, he's just continuing Obama's stuff. Though I think he's actually accelerated it.
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