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Trekkin

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« Reply #28965 on: March 21, 2019, 05:00:35 pm »

LOL!!  Boy, you would sure have a hard time recruiting both ends of the experiement! 

See, I had envisioned only recruiting the side with the armaments, but whatever floats your gunboats.

Funny story, though: I actually have looked up the ethical guidelines on this, albeit from a population genomics standpoint. Apparently when they tell you that changes are required if your proposed experiments are likely to raise objections from local governments, they mean changes to the experiments.

Admittedly they don't explicitly say that the installation of technocratic puppet states isn't a valid form of outreach, but it's fairly clear from context.
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« Reply #28966 on: March 21, 2019, 05:18:50 pm »


The issue, is that of people not understanding the process going on here, hearing the words "scientific debate", and thinking it is a debate of wits, and not a debate of merits and process validity. It is not "How can I sway everyone to BELIEVE me!?", and instead "have we eliminated EVERY conceivable source of error, or means of falsification in this result?", To which peers of the researcher gets suggestions on additional sources of error or means of falsification, to really and truly nail down the result as a real signal, and not either an experimental error, or a consequence of random chance within the error margin allowed by experimental error. 


I've seen this a lot, often from people who are looking for an easy loophole that will allow something they want to be possible. Many of them are, unsurprisingly, LessWrongers.
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« Reply #28967 on: March 21, 2019, 10:19:07 pm »

To be fair, "no amount of theory matters in the face of a single contradictory experiment" is one of the more perseverant lies-to-children we teach in grade school science classes
I blame Feynman.
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« Reply #28968 on: March 22, 2019, 12:06:13 am »

Well, mathematics beyond logic. If you're trying to do philosophy without logic... I'll let someone else fill in the joke.

You get a speaking slot at CPAC?
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« Reply #28969 on: March 22, 2019, 02:06:20 am »

You get a regular slot on Sean Hannity?
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« Reply #28970 on: March 22, 2019, 02:12:30 am »

You get that everything is water?
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« Reply #28971 on: March 22, 2019, 02:44:16 am »

You get that everything is water?

Philosophy is just water trying to understand water.
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« Reply #28972 on: March 22, 2019, 02:47:34 am »

If water flows to fill any container, what is it doing when it is itself the container? (deep koan parody, inspired by bruce lee quotation)
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« Reply #28973 on: March 22, 2019, 03:18:34 am »

If water flows to fill any container, what is it doing when it is itself the container? (deep koan parody, inspired by bruce lee quotation)

Missing a good opportunity to be alcohol instead.

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« Reply #28974 on: March 22, 2019, 06:44:51 am »

Certain activities at the Mueller office have led to speculation that the conclusion to his investigation is imminent.
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« Reply #28975 on: March 22, 2019, 06:46:26 am »

Man I can't wait for the Netflix original drama that recounts all this in intimate detail.
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« Reply #28976 on: March 22, 2019, 07:28:49 am »

I like to imagine every time Mueller steps out of his office to get a cup of coffee or go to the bathroom there's just this hush of silence through the building as everyone wonders if he's done yet.
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« Reply #28977 on: March 22, 2019, 08:51:21 am »

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One doesn't find out what the consensus is by asking a committee

Or they do, in the case of U.S. Nutritional Science. Which is how we ended up with 40 years of bad guidelines and the low fat craze.

Point being that isn't science. That's making a decision something is bad, and hiring "scientists" to "prove" your conclusion.
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« Reply #28978 on: March 22, 2019, 09:04:07 am »

I like to imagine every time Mueller steps out of his office to get a cup of coffee or go to the bathroom there's just this hush of silence through the building as everyone wonders if he's done yet.

Pretty much this.

I'm also curious why Trump seems to have decided that releasing the report to everyone is suddenly a good idea.
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« Reply #28979 on: March 22, 2019, 09:18:03 am »

I like to imagine every time Mueller steps out of his office to get a cup of coffee or go to the bathroom there's just this hush of silence through the building as everyone wonders if he's done yet.
Pretty much this.
I'm also curious why Trump seems to have decided that releasing the report to everyone is suddenly a good idea.

It's a good idea to say that he's going to release the report to everyone, because it makes it sound like he's innocent. He's not going to do it though. The report goes through the White House before anyone else gets it, and they can censor whatever they want before they pass it on. If there's anything damning in there, nobody will ever see it.
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