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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #31665 on: June 20, 2019, 02:11:19 pm »

I also don't understand what Iran would have to gain by starting a war, and I'd be very afraid of even risking it if I were them.  I also don't really see the point in the US trying to stir up trouble by actually flying the drone into their territory, since we can concoct reasons to start a war without needing to do that.

If it is Iran, the motive is straightforward.  They're  demonstrating  how dangerous a war with them would be, without inflicting casualties that would force a reprisal. If they can demonstrate a "fight us and we shut the planet down", then they've got a pretty substantial bargaining chip  in any negotiations.

Not saying  it is Iran, there's not enough evidence to support that right now.  There is, however, a plausible motive.
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« Reply #31666 on: June 20, 2019, 04:16:48 pm »

Iran could absolutely beat the US in a war. It wouldn't be good for Iran, but it sure as shit would get interesting around the time we get to watch a US aircraft carrier burning and sinking into the Strait of Hormuz on CNN.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #31667 on: June 20, 2019, 04:53:24 pm »

It seems pretty clear to me that the biggest threat to American security is John Bolton.
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« Reply #31668 on: June 20, 2019, 05:38:22 pm »

I'unno about biggest, but you probably wouldn't see argument from much of anyone that's been paying attention that he's not at least somewhere in the top ten, maybe even top three or so.
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« Reply #31669 on: June 20, 2019, 07:05:50 pm »

Here's some political laughs and utterly ridiculous behavior, all of Oregons Republican state Senators literally fled the capitol in an attempt to evade a cap and trade carbon emissions bill. Rofl. The issue itself isn't utterly ridiculous (some Republicans would say it is though 😛 ) and deserves debate, as it should, but the behavior is totally ridiculous, lol....
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« Reply #31670 on: June 20, 2019, 11:00:29 pm »

"Exactly how we should be doing our job" indeed.  How else will "business as usual" survive in the face of this organized, conspiratorial attack orchestrated by big science and the liberal left!? We gotta think about employers, the economy, and jobs first and foremost!!  /s
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« Reply #31671 on: June 20, 2019, 11:04:22 pm »

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« Reply #31672 on: June 20, 2019, 11:07:48 pm »

“Maybe we’ll start an international war today.”

“Mmmmmm yeah go ahead and do it.”

“Mmmmmm yeah you know what, cancel that.”

This is what strong leadership looks like. Or someone playing chicken with the fate of the world.
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« Reply #31673 on: June 20, 2019, 11:08:32 pm »

Orange idiot indecisive about causing international conflict; Pissy about lack of positive press coverage, decides to try wagging the dog, but gets told not to by military advisors.
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« Reply #31674 on: June 21, 2019, 04:04:14 am »

When asked how he would respond to Iran shooting down the drone, Trump answered, 'You're gonna find out.' At that moment, I was pretty certain something exactly like this was about to happen.
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« Reply #31675 on: June 21, 2019, 05:37:19 am »

Further demonstrating his administration's now characteristic disconnect with reality, Trump Campaign begins "Latinos for Trump" campaign in Miami.

(Of course, this will be radically successful, because there is no possible way that the demographic being wooed will in any way remember being told that immigrants from south america and mexico are unwelcome, that those countries don't send their best [but "some" are good people], and has made an entire campaign around how mexican immigrants and laborers are majorly at fault for america 'not being great', and all that.  No way at all.  Nope. They love Trump.)
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« Reply #31676 on: June 21, 2019, 07:34:22 am »

I've got family that were swooped up by the "Women for Trump" movement... Which you'd think would be nearly as unlikely.


There's actually a not-insignificant number of immigrant families here in Norway who firmly support the far right and their sternly anti-immigrant policies. Apparently, the main draw for them seems to be "We're here now and got the best spots, we don't want anyone else coming and ruining it for us"... Which is both hilarious and incredibly compassionate!

That particular demographic and those ideals came to light a couple years ago when a couple right wing politicians set about proving that "We're not racist" by going out to some family's house and eating homemade Pakistani food, whereupon they said "This is really tasty!"; thereby confirming that they cannot possibly be biased against immigrants or brown people in general.

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« Reply #31677 on: June 21, 2019, 11:05:33 am »

Meanwhile I'm not accused of being racist at all but to be quite honest with you Arabic food is trash. I hated it.

Almost like food isn't representative of people.
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« Reply #31678 on: June 21, 2019, 11:08:46 am »

Iran could absolutely beat the US in a war. It wouldn't be good for Iran, but it sure as shit would get interesting around the time we get to watch a US aircraft carrier burning and sinking into the Strait of Hormuz on CNN.

I recognize that Iran isn't like Iraq, but would Iran realistically have a chance of beating the US?  I would expect us to be able to park ships outside of their range and destroy military targets with relative impunity.  Maybe I'm underestimating how sophisticated Iranian missiles are, since long range missiles are the only way I could see them even striking an aircraft carrier.  Iran has a lot of military tech from Russia, right?  Maybe it is better than I realize.

I'm kind of curious now how effective ship based point defenses are against modern missiles.

Further demonstrating his administration's now characteristic disconnect with reality, Trump Campaign begins "Latinos for Trump" campaign in Miami.

(Of course, this will be radically successful, because there is no possible way that the demographic being wooed will in any way remember being told that immigrants from south america and mexico are unwelcome, that those countries don't send their best [but "some" are good people], and has made an entire campaign around how mexican immigrants and laborers are majorly at fault for america 'not being great', and all that.  No way at all.  Nope. They love Trump.)

Doesn't Trump have a surprising amount of support among Latinos already?  My impression was that many of them are conservative for reasons unrelated to Trump (like religion) and put up with / like him despite everything he says.  That might have been those primarily in Florida, if memory serves.
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« Reply #31679 on: June 21, 2019, 11:24:43 am »

Iirc, while Latinos have a strong correlation of voting democrat despite being very conservative, Florida Latinos tend to be more republican than the average Latinii does. So unless I'm mistaken, Florida would likely be where to go to if you'd want to start drenching for such a thing.
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