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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #32221 on: September 13, 2019, 05:24:12 pm »

I was disappointed by Andrew's Yang performance. My biggest thing with him, even though it feels like he is bribing people especially with his announcement of giving 10k a year to 10 people...with 1k monthly income I can finally upgrade my 10+ year old PC. That is a bigger income I make each month than my disability I get. No other candidate is wanting to help low income earners with having a bigger income, when working isn't an option. I guess tax would go up for most people, but don't care tax the rich and give me that money. Its time they pay up. Granted, I know nothing else of andrew yang except his attempt at what I consider bribing people to support him lol.

In any case. No other candidate is going to upgrade my PC for me, no other candidate is going to help me feed myself or pay my rent or bills which are crazy high in california. I can't live in the tiniest shack in california on my income. And andrew yang is the only candidate that would make a difference for so many people.

Sadly his (andrew yang) performance was pretty terrible this go around. At least biden and kamala both did good for most part, they are my #2 and #3 choice. A lot of the other candidates are crazy stalin loving socialists (though maybe andrew yang falls under that department? Oh well. Like I said, know nothing about him I just want 1k a month thats more than I earn each month lol), not quite as bad as trump supporters but definitely not worth supporting or having my vote. Except andrew yang, I think he falls under that (dunno tbh) but hey its free 1k every month :P If looking at the greater whole and not personally, its good people are still supporting biden. And kamala is doing pretty good though biden is constantly topping by far the most in polling.
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« Reply #32222 on: September 13, 2019, 05:49:48 pm »

wwhere the candidates stand on finances and certain policies
I think this may be helpful in candidate deciding
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« Reply #32223 on: September 13, 2019, 05:51:37 pm »

I liked Biden’s old man ramble at the end.
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« Reply #32224 on: September 13, 2019, 05:53:19 pm »

I liked Biden’s old man ramble at the end.
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« Reply #32225 on: September 13, 2019, 06:32:28 pm »

Not Biden.

Not fucking Biden.

Never.

Anyone who thinks progressives and millennials had a burn-it-all-down attitude after 2016.  Just see what happens if Biden wins the primary.

We're talking about someone WHO CALLED DICK CHENEY A DECENT GUY IN 2015!
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« Reply #32226 on: September 13, 2019, 06:47:49 pm »

I mean... fortunately warren seems to be gaining ground while biden's teeth falls out and he has various senior moments. Whether it makes a difference when a lot of people seem pretty okay with him, I'unno, but there's still good odds he withers. Here's hoping.
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« Reply #32227 on: September 13, 2019, 06:50:19 pm »

Like with all things centrist, "vote blue no matter who" is centrists chastising the left for something that centrists do. As we all famously remember, the media set up "Bernie voters won't back Clinton" when statistically they were more likely to than anybody, and many of Clinton's base stayed home or voted for Trump.

So, being that our current disaster is the fault of the centrist voter, the DNC, and capitalist scumfuckery, you will all understand why I am committing right now that I will not vote for Joe Biden. The DNC can bend the knee or they can get the fuck out, but either way it's time for the left to put its foot down for once.

I reserve the right to turn on Warren with every piece of the Obama-Clinton wonk machine she absorbs and every dollar of dark money she takes. There's only one real candidate in this race at this point.
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« Reply #32228 on: September 13, 2019, 07:01:35 pm »

Like with all things centrist, "vote blue no matter who" is centrists chastising the left for something that centrists do. As we all famously remember, the media set up "Bernie voters won't back Clinton" when statistically they were more likely to than anybody, and many of Clinton's base stayed home or voted for Trump.

So, being that our current disaster is the fault of the centrist voter, the DNC, and capitalist scumfuckery, you will all understand why I am committing right now that I will not vote for Joe Biden. The DNC can bend the knee or they can get the fuck out, but either way it's time for the left to put its foot down for once.

I reserve the right to turn on Warren with every piece of the Obama-Clinton wonk machine she absorbs and every dollar of dark money she takes. There's only one real candidate in this race at this point.
Who is the real candidate?
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« Reply #32229 on: September 13, 2019, 07:03:56 pm »

Biden seems the best choice as far as moderate democrats go. Him and kamala are pretty sensible. I just like Andrew Yang cause of the free 1k lol. The others which are popular with some democrats are as far left as trump supporters are far right. Don't see how voting so far left is any better than voting for trump. People seem to have ignored all the failures of socialism and want to re-create stalin russia everywhere.

Granted, russia in the 50s/60s did actually campaign to heavily infilitrate western countries with communist propaganda by renaming/rebranding communism as socialism and putting in "socialist" (which are really communist its the same thing) teachers in schools and heavily supporting socialism amongst the west. Quite a good strategy for most part, because socialism destroys countries and that is exactly russia's intent. Russia was almost destroyed by socialism, and it took a lot of time for them to get rid of it. Then they weaponized it on the west. Its a pretty good strategy without even needing to fight in an actual war.

Hopefully it doesn't go that far in the US. Its been heavily weaponized in europe sadly, but then russia props up far right racists/radicals to further cause discord amongst the west. So first they weaponize socialism, then they use radicals against it and then the people fight amongst themselves. Almost like a good cop/bad cop kinda scenario in a way, but in this case everyone is equally bad. And then you got the sensible democrats like kamala/biden that the far left hate for some reason. The far left even hate obama, which is really weird.
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« Reply #32230 on: September 13, 2019, 07:10:23 pm »

Who is the real candidate?
Since sanders has ruled out pushing to nuke the filibuster, of the major ones it basically just leaves warren, tbh. Biden's biden, sanders has more or less committed to functionally neutering his presidency if he got elected, and unless something changes between now and the primaries there's not really a fourth option :-\

Biden seems the best choice as far as moderate democrats go. Him and kamala are pretty sensible. I just like Andrew Yang cause of the free 1k lol. The others which are popular with some democrats are as far left as trump supporters are far right.
That's complete bullshit, though. There's not really anything popular among dems that is any further left than bog standard european(/other major developed countries) stuff.
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« Reply #32231 on: September 13, 2019, 07:16:05 pm »


Biden seems the best choice as far as moderate democrats go. Him and kamala are pretty sensible. I just like Andrew Yang cause of the free 1k lol. The others which are popular with some democrats are as far left as trump supporters are far right.
That's complete bullshit, though. There's not really anything popular among dems that is any further left than bog standard european(/other major developed countries) stuff.

Cut him some slack. It is clear from the rest of the post that he's been fed a mountain of horseshit, so you can't expect him to recognize peanut butter.
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« Reply #32232 on: September 13, 2019, 07:17:14 pm »

Who is the real candidate?
Since sanders has ruled out pushing to nuke the filibuster, of the major ones it basically just leaves warren, tbh. Biden's biden, sanders has more or less committed to functionally neutering his presidency if he got elected, and unless something changes between now and the primaries there's not really a fourth option :-\

Biden seems the best choice as far as moderate democrats go. Him and kamala are pretty sensible. I just like Andrew Yang cause of the free 1k lol. The others which are popular with some democrats are as far left as trump supporters are far right.
That's complete bullshit, though. There's not really anything popular among dems that is any further left than bog standard european(/other major developed countries) stuff.

And europe is full of far left socialism. Which is I agree become standard over there. UK for example is a socialist police state that takes words more seriously than being a pedophile, that is as far left as it gets. That is the exact same thing of stalin communism who arrested/killed anyone that said anything they didn't like. Which again was spread to the western world by russia (except rebranded itself) to create discourse within the west, without actually needing to fight an actual war war. Its as bad as all the far right radicals that have sprouted up and go around with their equal BS, both equally bad in their own way.

I don't support either group. So I'm really hoping Biden or Kamala end up as the Democrat nominee, far more sensible politicians.
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« Reply #32233 on: September 13, 2019, 07:17:39 pm »

Fun fact: Stalin was not supposed to inherit the Soviet Union upon Lenin’s death. deeming Stalin ill-suited for the party
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« Reply #32234 on: September 13, 2019, 07:23:08 pm »


Biden seems the best choice as far as moderate democrats go. Him and kamala are pretty sensible. I just like Andrew Yang cause of the free 1k lol. The others which are popular with some democrats are as far left as trump supporters are far right.
That's complete bullshit, though. There's not really anything popular among dems that is any further left than bog standard european(/other major developed countries) stuff.

Cut him some slack. It is clear from the rest of the post that he's been fed a mountain of horseshit, so you can't expect him to recognize peanut butter.

You didn't refute any of my points though, just used an insult. As soon as someone uses insults, they have no real argument. Just like trump insults people, because that is all he can do. He never even counters anyones points or tries to prove them wrong or have an actual discussion, so he just uses insults. The worst president we've ever had and definitely propped up by russia to create discourse in the US.

What is different between socialism (which europe is full of) and communism? There may be a few different things, but they are almost the exact same things advertised except rewording of things with the rebrand. That is what russia wanted is to destroy the west with their socialist junk.

And it is weird though the far left has targeted obama of all people, the best president we've ever had. That one democrat debate, so many of them insulted obama's legacy...that was the weirdest thing ever and made no sense. In that regard, biden may not be perfect but he sure is sensible and can get things done. I'm sure kamala would do good too, and she can very easily out debate trump and run circles around him.
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