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[nenjin]

It's a preemptive strike right? Gosh it's right on the tip of my tongue.....

[da_nang]

And may have been where he was more or less at our request, from what I've seen of chatter. Basically we murdered a high level iranian official under the flag of truce, pissing on iraqi sovereignty as we went.

Which would technically be perfidy, a war crime under Geneva Protocol I.

But (un)surprisingly, neither the US nor Iran have ratified it.

Iraq has though, which makes for a very interesting--albeit likely non-existent--court battle.

[Reelya]

I agree that it was unjustified. It doesn’t bode well for us if our government can’t stop itself from killing people willy nilly. I’m not even sure why Trump/the military killed Qassim.

Trump ordered the killing because of a Tweet.

Trump was saying how he's going to get Iran on Twitter, and the Iranian leader tweeted back "you can't do anything". This is what got Trump worked up enough to order someone to be murdered. Seriously, you're being ruled by a Mob Boss. It's Trump's version of kidnapping your best friend and having them thrown into the river with "concrete overshoes", and he did it purely because he thought the leader of Iran was laughing at him.

Trump's a homicidal sociopath, so don't expect what he did to make sense to yourself. This is the type of guy who orders revenge killings so he can get a laugh out of it at someone else's expense.

[wierd]

The mistake is in thinking that there are any kinds of checks and balances in the US's government anymore.

The only thing that has been keeping this kind of bullshit at bay has been the personal character of the people elected to the office. There used to be real separation of powers, but then we had to give the war powers act, and subsequent handing of authority over to the executive bit by bit, and now we have orange dumbfuck with an inferiority complex raging over twitter, and sending missiles to soothe his petty fits.


This kind of shit is why those separation of powers were designed to be there, and what they were designed to prevent.  Perhaps instead of going further down the partisan rabbit hole, we should agree to start pulling power back from the executive, and plugging the bleeding holes in that system?

No?

Of course not, that would require idiots with more money and power than sensibility to actually do what's right for the country and not for themselves.

[LordBaal]

So you are retreating from Irak or not? I get the sense you are but somehow things will get worse out of it and eventually will return or don't know... the whole region if more fucked up than Venezuela. That's saying A LOT.

[Iduno]

We've been focusing a lot more energy on destabilizing the Middle East than we have on South America.

[Kagus]

So you are retreating from Irak or not?

The military force of the United States of America does not retreat; we simply invade the other direction.

[Iduno]

So you are retreating from Irak or not?

The military force of the United States of America does not retreat; we simply invade the other direction.

You aren't kidding. I remember being told in late 2001 that there were not any jobs available at a lot of companies in my chosen field because of the effect the war had on the economy, but as soon as the war was over, things would come back. Still waiting on that one.

[Reelya]

If you were told that you couldn't get a job in your field back in 2001 it probably wouldn't matter that things have improved in the last 19 years: ageism.

[Iduno]

If you were told that you couldn't get a job in your field back in 2001 it probably wouldn't matter that things have improved in the last 19 years: ageism.

I also haven't used the information in 19 years, so I can't remember how to do anything. Not that it matters now, the jobs don't exist.

[sluissa]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/is-iran-ukraine-plane/index.html

Trump trying to push the narrative that Iran shot down the plane.

While I wasn't ruling that out before, why does it seem less plausible now that he's said it?

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/iran-plane-crash-investigation/h_45a383caa4f0d6a9b168058eaed7d012

Well, Canada backs it up. :/

[Kagus]

The first URL there looks more like they're asking the question of whether or not Iran is actually (in part or in whole) Ukraine.

Which was a question I was disturbingly unsurprised by, considering how completely ludicrous the world has been the past few years.

[sluissa]

We'll just have to ask South Africa or Iraq to help us get maps for our US American children's education. ...and so forth.

[Max™]

I thought it was asking if Iran is tangent to the same plane as the Ukraine, which is absurd, the fiber bundle would only be cotangent across that distance if local spacetime were totally flat or some bullshit.

Also, does anybody else think maybe Trump is just in the midst of a multi-decadal hissyfit he started when his big brother got a funeral and casket and he didn't get one?

[MrRoboto75]

I mean ukraine and iran are both part of the USSR right