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Author Topic: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Post-game write up up.  (Read 90479 times)

TheBiggerFish

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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2(4/9): Day 5: It probably ends now.
« Reply #795 on: April 21, 2017, 12:35:59 pm »

Game not thrown, game horribly broken.

Shorten.

Sorry.
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2(4/9): Day 5: It probably ends now.
« Reply #796 on: April 21, 2017, 12:40:39 pm »

TBF Alpha has rejoined the game!

Votecount:

Tiruin(0): []
BlackHeartKabal(3): [Tiruin, 4maskwolf, TBF Beta]
4maskwolf(0): []
TBF Alpha(0): []
TBF Beta(0): []

Not Voting: TBF Alpha, BlackHeartKabal

Seeing as the only way for this to not end this way now would be for somebody to play against their win condition, I'm calling it. And I got ninjad by a shorten vote. Okay.

There were five remaining. Unfortunately for the town, three of those remaining were Canadian.

The L.Y.N.C.H.'s energy beam disintegrated BlackHeartKabal in an instant.

Analysis follows.

BlackHeartKabal was A role crafted out of the concept of a Gambler(town):
(Night): Play for Stakes [target]: You accost your target and force them to play a game of dice with you. You and your target both roll 5 dice(this is handled by the mod), and whoever has the highest total is the winner. In the event of a tie, nothing happens. When you use this action, you may also choose the stakes.
-(Stakes): Your Life: The loser is killed.
-(Stakes): Your Vote: At the end of the next day, the loser votes for whoever the winner is voting for, unless some other ability forces them to vote differently.
-(Stakes): Your Information: The winner learns what one of the loser’s abilities, chosen at random, is. Mafiakills cannot be revealed by this.
(1-Shot, Day): Casino Royale: All players gain (1-Shot, Day): Slot Machine. The day is extended by 48 hours.
(Night): Draw a Card: You draw the top card of the Deck of Many Things. Odds are this will either be really good or really bad. You cannot draw the same card twice.
Spoiler: Slot Machine Reference (click to show/hide)

"Well then. Will one of you fine Canadians please do the honor of killing off the town half of the fish?"

A perhaps reluctant hail of bullets impacted TBF Alpha, killing him in an instant.

Analysis follows.

TBF Alpha was The FBYOR Role With Two Daykills(town):
(1-Shot, Day): Taking the lynch into your own hands [target]: If today ended with a no lynch, you kill the target before night starts.
(1-Shot, Night): Kill the day: The next day is skipped.


"Well then. Now that you three've won, I'll be fine providing transport back to your homeland. Anything else you want to do before you go?"

"Could we finish off our Canadian breakfast buffet?"

"... okay. Fine."

Needless to say, it was delicious, all of it from the Kraft to the pancakes to the poutine.

"Anything else?"

"Can I keep my books?"

"Yes, you can keep your books. Anything else?"

"So... what's with all this Canada business anyway?"

"I'll let Tiruin explain that to you. Goodbye. Have fun conquering the world."

The portal was opened. The Canadian mafia left in joy.

Mafia Canadians win. After-game posts in a bit.

One thing you can do until I post the end game posts is talk about what needed fixing and what was good in this game. This is only the second game I've run, and I could definitely use some feedback, as evidenced by the chatter in the scumchat and deadchat.

One thing I definitely know now, however, is to bloody limit hyper-flexible and hyper-abusable abilities like In Again.
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2(4/9): Day 5: It probably ends now.
« Reply #797 on: April 21, 2017, 12:42:28 pm »

Yeaugh, never again, seriously.
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #798 on: April 21, 2017, 12:44:49 pm »

I plan on including this line in the OP of all future FBYORs:

Warning: I claim veto power over all submitted Shakeragian roles. If I don't think I can make something fun and balanced out of it, I will ask for a new submission.

If I ever included an ability like In Again again, it would be severely limited(no Shakeragian submission, can only be used day after death occurred, maybe only get one ability in your new role).
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #799 on: April 21, 2017, 12:45:51 pm »

Why not just...In general?
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #800 on: April 21, 2017, 12:47:02 pm »

Because I do think it's something of a neat idea. Which definitely needs refining. Anyway, if it does appear again, it probably won't be for a while.
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #801 on: April 21, 2017, 12:48:04 pm »

Like, I mean, "I reserve veto power over roles I can't make fun and balanced."
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #802 on: April 21, 2017, 12:53:34 pm »

Do you think you can submit a non-shakeragian role I couldn't balance somehow? Basically, it's only Shakeragian roles that could be an issue, but I could be wrong...
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #803 on: April 21, 2017, 01:02:09 pm »

deadchat link, Fallacy?

Mafiachat link, to those who want it.

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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #804 on: April 21, 2017, 01:13:36 pm »

The theme this round is: Basic.

But seriously, two things:
*Take the veto power.  In general.
*If someone tries to truly break the game with a Shakeragian idea, you can always do what Webadict does: break them.
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #805 on: April 21, 2017, 01:20:09 pm »

I knew I should have just killed Tiruin day 1. ::)
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #806 on: April 21, 2017, 01:52:59 pm »

The theme this round is: Basic.

But seriously, two things:
*Take the veto power.  In general.
*If someone tries to truly break the game with a Shakeragian idea, you can always do what Webadict does: break them.
You better believe I make them pay.
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #807 on: April 21, 2017, 01:53:50 pm »

Is still waiting for a deadchat link from someone

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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #808 on: April 21, 2017, 02:05:08 pm »

I knew I should have just killed Tiruin day 1. ::)
You should've made an actual case since day 1. :P

Game not thrown, game horribly broken.

Shorten.

Sorry.
You spent a week going against the team, and even then I'M BEING BLAMED because "it's my fault to hold up the game"-

 is what I'd have said if I was still annoyed at what had happened. But I'm not :v
I'd really like you to be more detailed or concise rather than place down a hail of brevity. x~x Your D1 was okay.
The endgame wasn't :/

Seeing as the only way for this to not end this way now would be for somebody to play against their win condition, I'm calling it. And I got ninjad by a shorten vote. Okay.
How is there any correlation between a role's alignment, and the role title submitted? ._.

The theme this round is: Basic.

But seriously, two things:
*Take the veto power.  In general.
*If someone tries to truly break the game with a Shakeragian idea, you can always do what Webadict does: break them.
You better believe I make them pay.
Aughh I'd be saying yesssss but then I'd just fluster around having said what I did...in multiple quicktopics >_>

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TBF Alpha was The FBYOR Role With Two Daykills(town)
HOW IN THE WORLD IS THIS 'BIASED TOWN' <_<
How did you STILL retain an old role? O_o
Why are there roles that are using the Shakeragian cover to mean 'bring your own VERY SPECIFIC ABILITY'??
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(1-Shot, Night): You Go In Too!: Choose a non-player and compose a 250-char or shorter message. I will offer the chosen non-player a spot in the game with a PM, and include your message in the PM. If they accept, they will submit a role name and join the game with that role at the start of the following day. Their alignment will be randomly determined: They will have a 2/9 chance of being mafia, and a 7/9 chance of being town.
How is TBF a NON player when it's his SOMEHOW STRANGE DOUBLE ROLE that is dead!?

I'm stressed. All formatting is emphasis instead of anything else. :-\ :'(
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Re: Fallacy's BYOR 2: Game over! Please supply feedback.
« Reply #809 on: April 21, 2017, 02:12:41 pm »

Hmph, fine.

Here.
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*Take the veto power.  In general.
Hm. How about...

Warning: I reserve the right to veto your role submission. Do not expect to have me use this unless you submit something guidelines-ey or extremely Shakeragian. I don't expect to need it, but better to have it and be prepared.

It's going to be a bit before I can post the full stuffs, but in the meantime, I can supply the night action list, being easy to copy/paste.

Spoiler: Long (click to show/hide)

How is there any correlation between a role's alignment, and the role title submitted?
The only way there should be a correlation is in the case of a third party: If somebody submitted something like "Brainwasher" and got third party, they would get a different alignment than if they submitted "Murderer" and got third party.

In the future, trying to submit a Shakeragian role that asks for a specific alignment will probably be cause for me to use veto.
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