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Author Topic: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.  (Read 73862 times)

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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #495 on: March 14, 2017, 12:06:05 am »

I am reminded of Emperor Claudius's reforms to Latin; immediately revoked and forgotten after his death.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #496 on: March 14, 2017, 02:54:50 am »

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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #497 on: March 14, 2017, 07:45:53 am »

I think discussions like this are how we ended up with "men in black" as a measurement for computer memory storage.

Sometimes just leave convention alone - changing it for "the sake of correctness" is...[adjective].
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« Reply #498 on: March 14, 2017, 08:25:24 am »

I think discussions like this are how we ended up with "men in black" as a measurement for computer memory storage.

Sometimes just leave convention alone - changing it for "the sake of correctness" is...[adjective].
But we have so many different standards!  To which, the only answer, obviously, is to sit down and sensibly define a single umbrella standard to cover every case!!
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #499 on: March 14, 2017, 08:30:30 am »

No, no, the correct path is to pick one and then calmly murder everyone that uses a different one. Eventually there's only one standard left. standard disclaimer: don't actually murder anyone over standard conflicts, please
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #500 on: March 14, 2017, 08:40:51 am »

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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #501 on: March 14, 2017, 09:52:19 am »


It's honestly baffling that the well isn't completely poisoned on communism by now, considering how it's turned out for everyone everywhere it's been done.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #502 on: March 14, 2017, 10:12:48 am »

I mostly just wanted an excuse to post the gif, but ye, its pretty surprising that people give communism such a pass while at the same time going full ham against fascism and etc, specially when you actualy give a good look at history and realize that, at the end of things, fascism and communism really weren't that different in practice. Also, the whole "fascism was racist and killed a bajillion people" doesnt exactly stick since communism murdered even more people and pushed several views your average social media progressive should find disgusting (IE homosexuals are mentally ill capitalist dogs, jews are fascist bastards because they don't conform to our ideas, ukranians are disposable, black people are inferior and immoral, etc).

So ye, sorry cringy soviet shirt guy, but I can't really treat you any better than a guy wearing a swastika.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #503 on: March 14, 2017, 10:15:06 am »


It's honestly baffling that the well isn't completely poisoned on communism by now, considering how it's turned out for everyone everywhere it's been done.

But that wasn't reeeeeally communism. At least that's what I hear from latter-day communists when they defend their ideology.

I mostly just wanted an excuse to post the gif, but ye, its pretty surprising that people give communism such a pass while at the same time going full ham against fascism and etc, specially when you actualy give a good look at history and realize that, at the end of things, fascism and communism really weren't that different in practice. Also, the whole "fascism was racist and killed a bajillion people" doesnt exactly stick since communism murdered even more people and pushed several views your average social media progressive should find disgusting.

So ye, sorry cringy soviet shirt guy, but I can't really treat you any better than a guy wearing a swastika.
As a German person, I take offense to that.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #504 on: March 14, 2017, 10:16:33 am »

Good, lets have a beer together sometime.

But only if its west german.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #505 on: March 14, 2017, 10:25:31 am »

communism murdered even more people and pushed several views your average social media progressive should find disgusting
A lot of social media progressives seem to defend ideologies with disgusting views, as long as they can claim oppression points or whatever. They defend Islam despite its horrifying practices, they defend communism and anarchism despite their violence and mass murder.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #506 on: March 14, 2017, 10:59:15 am »

Can we not make this the "act snide about liberals" thread? I know a couple people have been using it for that occasionally, but it's going to ignite an argument. You can phrase these criticisms without sounding like you just got out of a fight on another site and are trying to bring it here.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #507 on: March 14, 2017, 12:07:53 pm »

Also, the whole "fascism was racist and killed a bajillion people" doesnt exactly stick since communism murdered even more people and pushed several views your average social media progressive should find disgusting (IE homosexuals are mentally ill capitalist dogs, jews are fascist bastards because they don't conform to our ideas, ukranians are disposable, black people are inferior and immoral, etc).

So ye, sorry cringy soviet shirt guy, but I can't really treat you any better than a guy wearing a swastika.
I disagree, but only because Fascism clearly led to the Second World War (you might argue that hitler himself didn't cause all these deaths, but fascism is  indisputably the case and reason for the war), and by that token Fascism has a death toll of around eighty-four million people; whereas by contrast capitalism and communism have both, thus far, resisted the urge to plunge the world into everlasting night, which is a point in their favor.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #508 on: March 14, 2017, 12:28:44 pm »

Hex>Philips Head
Flathead>Hex(and everything else honestly)

Depends on the application. In general, there's never a good reason for hex heads. They're a pain in the ass to work with if removable torque isn't required and they round off in seconds if it is.

Repeatable w/o torque: flathead
Nonrepeatable: square Philips
Repeatable with torque: bolt
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #509 on: March 14, 2017, 12:34:48 pm »

Good, lets have a beer together sometime.

But only if its west german.
Sounds good.

There's a couple more folks here from the Netherlands and Belgium - maybe we should organize a regional meetup sometime. Whaddya think?
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