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[Dunamisdeos]

Since the last update my miners continually drown in unrelated murky pools. These pools are not on their way to anything, and there was no reason for them to go to that part of the map.

I just find them, and only miners, dead in a pool. Constantly.

Any idea what's up with that?

[PatrikLundell]

Only thing I can think of is the buggy pathing that can lead to visitors and enemies to enter pools on their way to the fortress. When DFHack teleported up to the edge they immediately return back down, Teleport them sufficiently far away and they find their way.

Your problem is probably something else, though.

[Dunamisdeos]

They are already dead by the time I find them, and there are plenty of paths open to them. Closer paths, even.

[Skorpion]

The only solution is to drain the ponds, and to obliterate their ability to gain water with paving.

[Dunamisdeos]

I mean that would stop em' drowning, but I want to find out why.

[Valkyrie]

Sort of seems like there are two questions.  Why are the miners going to the lakes, and why are they drowning there?  Wandering toward lakes could be thirst (but the rest of the fort would probably be parading there too), or some odd mining designation (but why isn't that evident?).  Them drowning suggests falling or being pulled in - the initial stun from the fall can easily become lethal underwater.  Could be a creature that drags them in (but you'd probably notice it, or its corpse...), a creature they dodge away from, or ice converting to water (causing them to fall).

I don't even know if it's possible, but my best guess would be something like the lakes freeze to ice, you've got a mining designation for one of those ice tiles, so a miner sets out; while there, the ice converts to water, the miner drowns, and the designation is invisible, ready to kill the next miner with the next freeze.  Like I said, I don't even know if that's possible (having a designation 'ghost' on ice->water->ice), but it's my best guess.

[Skorpion]

Maybe it melted as they went across it?
Or they dodged a wildlife and fell in?
Or maybe a ghost pushed them in?

[Dunamisdeos]

MELTED.

It is a sometimes-frozen biome.

That must be it.

I'm building a large structure, and I bet the miners when not mining are helping build it and pathing over ice, which then melts.

[Skorpion]

Well, there you go. Floor over the ponds?

[Dunamisdeos]

Well, there you go. Floor over the ponds?

Yes indeed.

Thanks for the help, fellow dorfs.

[Bradders]

Did you change the text in your forum icon to memorialize your noble idiotsdwarves?

Because if so, lel.  I coulda sworn it said something different recently.

[Dunamisdeos]

It rotates! Hit refresh a few times

[Werdna]

Well, there you go. Floor over the ponds?

Yes indeed.

A slightly simpler method that I use while paused at embark is to paint every water surface as a 'Restricted' tile (d-o-r).  You need to remember to paint it back to normal when you add bridges though.  A little tedious but I find this prevents almost all pond drownings and greatly minimizes river drownings.  It's not foolproof - lumber haulers will still fetch logs on ice, haulers might fetch goblinite on ice, etc.

[Dunamisdeos]

Well, there you go. Floor over the ponds?

Yes indeed.

A slightly simpler method that I use while paused at embark is to paint every water surface as a 'Restricted' tile (d-o-r).  You need to remember to paint it back to normal when you add bridges though.  A little tedious but I find this prevents almost all pond drownings and greatly minimizes river drownings.  It's not foolproof - lumber haulers will still fetch logs on ice, haulers might fetch goblinite on ice, etc.

This is quite clever. Thank you.

[Thisfox]

I had this problem as well. Turned out that it was a combination of "poor pathing decisions in melting season" and "Oh! Hey! A sock!" (or in this case, a pick. We didn't have many, but the migrants that year wanted to start mining, and there was a pick in the nearest pond....)

If you floor over it it should be okay, but while I was flooring over the worst offender, I had a weregiraffe attack

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(whole different story, but picture, if you will, a weregiraffe and a low dwarven ceiling...)

and we left just a single tile not floored over. So next year, the migrants all went over to the floor, and drowned themselves again.... It took me three more migrant waves to get rid of the Drowning Pit of Doom. By then it was floating with many dead bodies, socks, and not less than five good quality weapons.