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Re: Limited Suffrage: Should Voting be a Right?
« Reply #210 on: April 17, 2017, 06:51:58 am »

I think it's because we haven't had a study to determine which PhD's are charlatan's versus which ones are legitimate.

Regardless, though, just saying "the experts said it" is simply appeal to authority.  You should only look at data, not who presented it.

And this doesn't even touch on the fact that "good" science can only tell you "what," not "ought."
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Re: Limited Suffrage: Should Voting be a Right?
« Reply #211 on: April 17, 2017, 06:58:33 am »

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Typically by guessing and treating their guesses as absolute fact and going from there

Ok, well the context behind this would be 1800th century psychology all the way to the 1960s and probably further. There is the Malaria cure, for example.

That is but one example. Also don't misinterpret me here too, my issue isn't "They were wrong!" the issue is how much garbage got in without anyone doing any real verification AND how messed up the methodology was... AND how the environment of psychology aided this environment.

Then again I am decently grounded in the pseudosciences, misinterpreted sciences, intellectual inbreeding, and the ways fields change over time.

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It wasn't meant to be taken as scientific fact

Ok, to put this in context. For some of these issues a Scientist made a hypothesis or off comment on something. This is fine, scientists are allowed to make guesses. MOST Scientists don't expect it to go anywhere because most Scientists are scientists and believe that things need to be verified scientifically in order to be scientific.

Someone ELSE takes this hypothesis or comment... and then treats it like it is scientific fact and draws upon it from there. FAR outside what the original scientist would have wanted.
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Re: Limited Suffrage: Should Voting be a Right?
« Reply #212 on: April 17, 2017, 07:00:50 am »

Thread renamed to Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Subtitle: What's in a PhD?

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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #213 on: April 17, 2017, 07:20:48 am »

PhD is an infinite recursion of the thought-stream encapsulated mindflow springing forth from the eternal brainchild on the line between what is living and nonliving in this endless repeating I-thou relationship between the spirit-self and the flesh-self.

There, I win philosophy forever. Where's my Nobel?
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Re: Limited Suffrage: Should Voting be a Right?
« Reply #214 on: April 17, 2017, 01:26:42 pm »

Regardless, though, just saying "the experts said it" is simply appeal to authority.  You should only look at data, not who presented it.
What about when the topic isn't quantitative? What about when it is, say, a history PhD? Or, like, a Geology PhD even?


Rant over.

EDIT: Also, it appears that OP is no longer with us. In the end, it seemed that it was the mod's vote that mattered.
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #215 on: April 17, 2017, 02:52:08 pm »

Did he actualy get banned? I know his discord thread got locked because he kept posting chat logs, but where did you see he got banned?

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In the end, it seemed that it was the mod's vote that mattered.
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #216 on: April 17, 2017, 02:52:46 pm »

It's in the moderation log.
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #217 on: April 17, 2017, 03:10:39 pm »

Honestly, the only surprise is that it didn't happen earlier. The guy was engaging in constant brinkmanship.
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #218 on: April 17, 2017, 04:50:51 pm »

Yeah in the end Shub was his own worst enemy. -_-
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #219 on: April 18, 2017, 12:29:06 am »

PhD is an infinite recursion of the thought-stream encapsulated mindflow springing forth from the eternal brainchild on the line between what is living and nonliving in this endless repeating I-thou relationship between the spirit-self and the flesh-self.

There, I win philosophy forever. Where's my Nobel?

No award in Philosophy, they only give Nobel awards for things that improve humanity
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #220 on: April 18, 2017, 04:27:10 am »

It's in the moderation log.
how do I access this?
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #221 on: April 18, 2017, 04:40:07 am »

It's stickied in General Discussion.
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #222 on: January 17, 2022, 05:52:07 am »

The feeling that nothing changes anything is the worst poison a man can have, and it's never true.

We shouldn't let ourselves feel that way despite all the things trying to force it on us or the circumstances which fake it. You know your actions matter; so act with intent.
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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #223 on: January 17, 2022, 06:04:16 am »

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Re: Philosophy Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo
« Reply #224 on: April 06, 2022, 08:46:21 pm »

You know, it would be nice to have a global period where you know your actions can't mean shit in the bigger picture. We may have made our lives too significant. Everything feeds into something, everything requires mental justification, the future means too much... no fucks to give, sincerely, would be a nice fucking change for a while.
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