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[Nirur Torir]

Now I feel bad because I bought a hardsuit for *my* minion. >.>

I realized I'd rather just have mine sit in the helicopter and man a door gun.

Question: What weapons do the Mi-34 light helicopters have?

[syvarris]

@Glass
We actually can't put billboards on jeeps, or at least not if we want to get paid for them.  Aig said that the deal only works for aircraft, and aircraft that are clearly serving a purpose.  Thi is an obvious rule patch because I was originally going to spend 4 mil on jeeps, getting us 40,000,00 in advertising revenue.

Removing billboards from the pepsicopters serves no real purpose--a pepsiman squad isn't very powerful, and we get paid even if the copters are shot down.  I could see removing the billboards from our chopper though, and I suppose we might as well put light autocannons on them, though it would be best for them to flee immediately upon dropping troops, as they have no armor and can be taken down by infantry weapons.

@Everyone:
Note that combat hardsuits are amazing, and let you wield a light autocannon which is amazing.  Also, remember to get at least a gas mask for every person, along with a thermal cam, so we can spam teargas smoke and have nigh-immunity to bullets without being impeded ourselves.  I'd suggest also bringing a lot of teargas, because it's cheap compared to everything else, and helps us capture any ayys without protection alive--which means more money.  There's no particular reason to not coat the entire battlefield with massive amounts of teargas; even one captured ayy will probably pay for it, and it'll prevent enemies without thermal from being a significant danger.

@Nirur Torir
They have no guns, though we might be able to mount a single light autocannon on them.  Don't think too hard about the actual real-life capabilities of the thing, just go with whatever Aig rules.

[Egan_BW]

About removing the billboard from our chopper... Remember that helos are still very noisy, and the enemy is likely to notice at least the giant swarm of billboarded helos. Consider if you saw a whole bunch of glowing flying machines, and a single non glowing flying machine. You might make the intuitive leap that the glowing ones are all decoys for the not glowing one, and aim for what is presumably the larger threat.

[Glass]

Ok. No pepsi billboard on our heli, yes for the others edit: maybe only half of them get the neon lights, so as to cancel out the "look at the anomaly" effect, gas masks and thermal cams for everyone, etc.

Hardsuit description in the OP says nothing about mounted autocannons. Did this get changed? Also, do we want every PC to get one anyway?

Do we know that tear gas actually works on aliens? I mean, they're aliens, their biology is, well, alien, and could make this work very differently.

[Egan_BW]

Most likely it does nothing to them or kills them due to incompatible biology. We'll have to develop a different compound to get the same effects on aliens, which of course might be ineffectual or deadly to humans.

[Egan_BW]

edit: maybe only half of them get the neon lights, so as to cancel out the "look at the anomaly" effect

That would REALLY eat into our profits.

[Glass]

Basically, we need to capture live aliens in order to develop things that will make it easy to capture live aliens. Wonderful.

Whelp, there's always tasers/"arc throwers". Electrical stimulation of the nervous system generally works.

EDIT:

edit: maybe only half of them get the neon lights, so as to cancel out the "look at the anomaly" effect

That would REALLY eat into our profits.

No, like, get a few more helicopters, not get rid of the billboards on a few. We have tons of money to spend.

[syvarris]

Hardsuits can indeed wield light autocannons, maaaybe heavy ones, though heavies are generally inferior anyway.  It's yet another thing I asked Aigre in IRC.

Teargas is also useful for subduing civilian humans that get mind controlled, and coating the whole battlefield in the stuff is negligibly more expensive than just using normal smoke.  Aigre implied that it would be effective against ayys, so the possibility that it'll incapacitate all unarmored ones is worth the cost, IMO.

I think buying more helicopters and then only billboarding half would be unwise.  Each copter costs slightly more than 1 mil, and each billboard pays 2 mil.  If we only billboard half, we're not even breaking even if they all get shot down--and yes, that is a serious possibility, Aig runs deadly games--so we won't have the option to retreat.  Also, while we do have tons of money, we actually already need more, since we can't quite afford hardsuits and light autocannons for everyone and the mooks.  Though, I could spend less on Trump's share to help out anyone who can't buy enough.

Finally, though it can be really hard to be sure with him, I'm pretty sure Aig is limiting us to five paid billboards.  So we can't just spam eight pepsicopters.

[Egan_BW]

That just means we need to get more sponsors.

[Aigre Excalibur]

I have tax class today... will update later.

Seems we're ready to start.

Also, no we don't get xp from simulations, only from live combat.

I think if one wanted to go full stealth, silent vtols exist. they are slow and expensive though.

Arc thrower equivalents should work, but later on we need to find ways to breach armor and hardsuits.

[Aigre Excalibur]

Count me in.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name: Han Jee-Han
Description: A professional gamer (South Korean), Tall, lanky, and geeky, he built his own custom laptop and taught himself programing. His experience with guns is limited to what he learned in training and playing first person shooters. He does have some medical training as his parents wanted him to be a doctor and he went to school for it before entering the professional gaming scene.
Reason for joining: I have a sponsorship from a gaming company, they want me to get some hologram technology they can work in to their new system.

Life: 0
Sanity: 0

Stats:
Strength:2
Dexterity:3
Endurance:3
Charisma:3
Intelligence:3
Willpower:3
Intuition:3

Skills:
Ballistic Skill 1
Weapon Skill 0
Occult Knowledge 0
Engineering 1
Auxiliary 0
Medical 3
!science! 3

One gas mask, two medic bags, two first aid kits, two dwarven beers, a ration, a boiler suit, an autogun and let’s say 1000 bullets, and finally, 3 kg plastic explosives(can I put these in some bullets to make explosive bullets, if I can, then do that). Also I want an obsidian scalpel.

My meatsheild mook Shin Sun-Il will start out with flack armor and a lasgun, starting with the basic 10 shots

I’m basically playing him as a support guy. He tries to avoid line of fire, customizes his shots to give them a bonus, and comes in after to examine the tech and the aliens themselves. Also, never piss of a doctor, they know exactly where the vital organs are and where it hurts the most to be hit. He is no stranger to teamwork thanks to his gaming background, and he has a strategists mind.

Enclosed in the spoiler are some facts about obsidian over stainless steel for scalpels (I did my research) so you know there mechanics, its in spoiler so you don't have to read it if you don't want to, but it is short.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Obsidian scalpels are more expensive, but they can be used
many times before they lose their keen edge. And obsidian scalpel blades can be 100 times
sharper than traditional scalpel blades!
During surgery, steel scalpels actually tear the skin apart. Obsidian scalpels divide the skin
and cause much less damage. Some plastic surgeons use obsidian blades to make
extremely fine incisions that leave almost no scarring. An obsidian-scalpel incision heals
more quickly because the blade causes less damage to the skin and other tissues.
Many patients have allergic reactions to mineral components in steel blades. These patients
often do not have an allergic reaction when obsidian scalpels are used. Given all of these
advantages, it is not surprising that some physicians have made the change to obsidian
scalpels

Tell me what cost you think an obsidian scalpel should be please. Call it an improvised melee weapon I can also use for research.

I want to cram what we know about alien biology and technology before the mission.

Found it! We'll do a writeup on that soonish.

[syvarris]

Aigre, if we have the money, and the helicopters can support it, I'd like to mount a light autocannon on each of the pepsicopters, and give the pilots thermal imaging cameras with gas masks.  249 rounds of ammo for each, bring total cost up to a nice round $500,000.  Up to $300,000 can be taken from Trump's ammo fund if necessary; I never thought he'd really need four thousand bullets.

[Aigre Excalibur]

...I hadn't quite realized how much money we get.  Huh.  Well, I talked to Aigre in IRC, and got us an extension to the armory.

Spoiler: New items: (click to show/hide)

Frag Grenade: $25
Smoke (Chlorate) Grenade: $50
Smoke (WP) Grenade: $50
Teargas grenade (acts as smoke): $300

Thermal Imaging Camera (Sees through non-WP smoke): $10,000

Mi-34 Light Helicopters: $1,000,000

Anti-Somalian Pirate Merc: $250 (per mission day)
Trained Helicopter Pilot: $10,000 (per mission day)

Spoiler: Trump, grand economist that he is, commandeers $4,232,000 and buys: (click to show/hide)

Four Mi-34 light helicopters, with four pilots to fly them, and thirty-six anti-pirate mercs (four exploded while arming their C4, had to get replacements).  The helicopters have big glowing pepsi billboards on them, and the soldiers are mostly there to make it look like the copters are more than a way to get more advertising money from Pepsi.

Pepsiman Loadout ($6k, including $250 hiring cost):

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$1k - Autogun
$200 - 200x Autogun rounds
$2k - Flak armor, painted with Pepsi advertisements.  That's why it's red, honest.
$500 - C4 backpack, remotely detonatable by Trump.
$100 - First aid kit
$100 - Gas Mask
$1.8k - 6x Teargas grenade
$50 - A beer and a ration
An additional cost is $3k, paying for the four idiots who blew themselves up while arming their bombs for remote detonation.

And I'm redoing my inventories:

Money left over, subtracting cost of Trump's original loadout:
$4,404,200

Per player:
$1,101,050

Spoiler: Trump spends $1,076,050 on his own equipment, leaving $25k for other people (click to show/hide)

Both Trump and Sokolov get a copy of this:

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$10k - Thermal cam
1x ration
$200 - 8x beer
$3k - 12x medic's bags
$3k - rebreather
$2k - 2x katana
$12k - lasrifle (30 shots)
$3k - 10x teargas
$350 - 7x WP smoke
$250 - 5x Ch smoke
$200 - 8x frag
Sokolov additionally gets:

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$2k - Flak armor
$10k - 10x laser batteries
Trump additionally gets:

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$500k - Combat Hardsuit Mk1
$90k - Light autocannon
$400k - 4000 Light Autocannon bullets
$24k - x80 more teargas nades
$2k - x40 more WP nades

^{_{I take no responsibilty for any mathematical errors within this post.  I've already spent enough time bean counting, not gonna go over it all again just to make sure.}}

MI-34 light copters can only carry 6 combat troops. So 4 copters can stuff 24 in them. Another 8 can ride in the Mi-26 heavy copter.

I guess I'll adjust the price of c4 to $50 per kg rather than 500. The modern military bulk price is about $30 per kg. 1 kg of C4 also does jack shit. Real bombs are in the hundreds of kilograms for good reason.

So... The numbers work out.

We have 32 Pepsimen as per Trump's template.

Spoiler: redshirts (click to show/hide)

Autogun
200x Autogun rounds
Flak armor, painted with Pepsi advertisements.  That's why it's red, honest.
C4 backpack, remotely detonatable by Trump.
6x Teargas grenade
First aid kit
Gas Mask

Ballistic Skill: 1
Weapon Skill: 1
Toughness: 1+2

$50 - A beer and a ration

New Trump sheet, who needs inventory limits anyway edition.

Spoiler: Donald Trump (click to show/hide)

Name: Actual President Donald J. Trump
Description: That must've been one yuge rock you've been living under.
Reason for joining: "Join?!  Hah!  I created this great organization, it's mine, nobody else is as smart as I am, I knew how much of a threat the aliens were, I've known for so long, nobody else knew, those liberal morons especially, they kept screaming about abortion and global warming and their other stupid stuff, but I've been working on the real problems, the real disaster of this century, I knew the aliens were coming, and I'm going to get rid of them, send them back to their disgusting home!"

Inventory:
Combat Hardsuit Mk1 (equipped)
Light autocannon
4000 Light Autocannon bullets
80 more teargas nades
40 more WP nades

1x VSS Vintorez (Silenced Autogun)
100x 9x39mm (Ammo for VSS) - $200
1x Flak Armor - $4000
4x medic bag - $2000
5 Smoke Grenades: $500
10 Hand Grenades: $500

Thermal cam
1x ration
8x beer
12x medic's bags
rebreather
2x katana
lasrifle (10/10) + 2 spare batteries
10x teargas
7x WP smoke
5x Ch smoke
8x frag



Life: +4
Sanity: 0 seems like an accurate assessment, yes.

Stats:
Strength: 0 (-1)
Dexterity: 0 (-1)
Endurance: 1 (+0)
Charisma: 19 (+6) ( Can talk his way into being leader of the free world on a hate platform )
Intelligence: 0 (-1)
Willpower: 0 (-1)
Intuition: 0 (-1)

Skills:
Ballistic Skill: 7 (+2)
Weapon Skill: 0 (-1)
Occult Knowledge: 0 (-1)
Engineering: 0 (-1)
Auxiliary: 1 (+0)
Medical: 0 (-1)
!science!: 0 (-1)

Name: Nickolai The Mook
Silenced Autogun
100 Bullets
Flak Armor
4 Medic Bag
5 Smoke Grenades
10 Hand Grenades
Flak armor
10x laser batteries

Thermal cam
1x ration
8x beer
12x medic's bags
rebreather
2x katana
lasrifle (10/10) + 2 spare batteries
10x teargas
7x WP smoke
5x Ch smoke
8x frag

Life: 2
Sanity: 0

Toughness: 1
Ballistic Skill: 1
Weapon Skill: 1

Spoiler:  Glass Nox (click to show/hide)

Name: Vladimir "Nox" Golubev
Description: Expert sniper, claims seniority from a previous, similar organization.
Reason for joining: He's good at it.


Inventory:

Lasgun
10 Power packs
Flak Armor
Gas Mask

Life: 2
Sanity: [does this also start a 0?]

Toughness +2

Stats:

    Strength:1
    Dexterity:3
    Endurance:3
    Charisma:1
    Intelligence:3
    Willpower:3
    Intuition: 6

Skills:

    Ballistic Skill:6
    Weapon Skill:0
    Occult Knowledge:2
    Engineering:0
    Auxiliary:0
    Medical:0
    !science!:0

Name: 1st Mate Nox

Inventory:
Autogun
Autogun

1000 Bullets
1000 Rubber Bullets
Boiiler Suit

Fighting Knife, Strength 2

Stats:

Life: 1
Sanity: 0

Toughness: 1+1
Ballistic Skill: 1
Weapon Skill: 1

Spoiler: Nirur Emma (click to show/hide)

Name: Emma Ace
Description: Emma is annoyingly cheerful and has absolute confidence in her piloting skills. She has never turned down or lost a game of Chicken. She is also an adrenaline junky, and swears she flies better after a drink.
Reason for joining: She wants to be the first to fly the fastest alien ships, and 'knows' she will survive this.

Inventory:
Flak Armor +2 Toughness
Autogun
200 bullets
Gas Mask
12 Beers
Helicopter Repair Kit & Manual

Life: 2
Sanity: 0
Toughness: 2

Stats:
Strength: 0
Dexterity: 6
Endurance: 1
Charisma: 1
Intelligence: 3
Willpower: 3
Intuition 6

Skills:
Ballistic Skill 1
Weapon Skill 0
Occult Knowledge 0
Engineering 1
Auxiliary 6
Medical 0
!science! 0

Name: Halthor

Inventory:
Flak Armor +2 Toughness
Autogun
200 bullets
Gas Mask

Combat Knife: Strength 1

Stats:

Life: 1
Sanity: 0

Toughness: 1+2
Ballistic Skill: 1
Weapon Skill: 1

Spoiler: SmokeMirrors Han (click to show/hide)

Name: Han Jee-Han
Description: A professional gamer (South Korean), Tall, lanky, and geeky, he built his own custom laptop and taught himself programing. His experience with guns is limited to what he learned in training and playing first person shooters. He does have some medical training as his parents wanted him to be a doctor and he went to school for it before entering the professional gaming scene.
Reason for joining: I have a sponsorship from a gaming company, they want me to get some hologram technology they can work in to their new system.

Gas Mask
2 Medic bags
2 First Aid Kits
Boiler Suit (+1 Toughness)
Autogun
1000 Bullets
3 Kg Plastic Explosives
Scalpel
2 dwarvern beers
ration

Life: 0
Sanity: 0
Toughness: 1+1

Stats:
Strength:2
Dexterity:3
Endurance:3
Charisma:3
Intelligence:3
Willpower:3
Intuition:3

Skills:
Ballistic Skill 1
Weapon Skill 0
Occult Knowledge 0
Engineering 1
Auxiliary 0
Medical 3
!science! 3

mook: Shin Sun-Il


Toughness: 1
Ballistic Skill: 1
Weapon Skill: 1

Flak Armor
Lasgun (10/10)

Spoiler: Egan Nina (click to show/hide)

Name: Nina Goredaniels
Description: Little Redhead of irish descent, fresh out of grad school. Passionate about science and also a great many other things. Enjoys stabbing things, but is terrible at combat so better get people to round up some corpses.
Reason for joining: Turns out that getting funding is actually a little hard. From a certain point of view, getting shot at isn't worse than being homeless. And hey, aliens! Very exciting science. But please hand out the paychecks first. Oh, and Pepsi is pretty good.

Life: none
Sanity: who needs it

Stats:
Strength: 1
Dexterity: 1
Endurance: 3
Charisma: 6
Intelligence: 3
Willpower: 3
Intuition: 3

Skills:
Ballistic Skill: 0
Weapon Skill: 0
Occult Knowledge: 0
Engineering: 1
Auxiliary: 0
Medical: 1
‼Science‼: 6

'quipment:
Flack Armor
Belt of ~5 WP smoke grenades
Hand Cannon (Desert Eagle. Cool looking and stupid and impractical.)
1000 Bullets
Sharpened Machete
First Aid Kit
Bag of "Sciency Stuffs"
Walkie-Talkie (Tuned to Helicopter Radios)
Gas Mask
Thermal Goggles

14575

Walk-In Freezer 10,000
Surgical Theatre 2,000,000
Surgical and Autopsy Tools - included in surgical suite cost
Decent Supply of Body Bags - complimentary with the surgical suite
Sciency Centrifuge - 20,000 - you got the kind that can enrich uranium
Reserve $500,000 to buy stuff I suddenly realize I need

2,530,000

Mook: Alexandria Goredaniels
Description: Nina's sister. She's more down to earth, and also a bit stronger. From a certain point of view, shooting xenos for money is better than shooting humans for money, though if you happen to need that she's happy to help.

Toughness: 1
Ballistic Skill: 1
Weapon Skill: 1

Gear:
Hardsuit
Light Autocannon
1000 25mm rounds
Gas Mask
Thermal Goggles

700100

Total 714675

Team Funds remaining: $1,159,525

[Aigre Excalibur]

Aigre, if we have the money, and the helicopters can support it, I'd like to mount a light autocannon on each of the pepsicopters, and give the pilots thermal imaging cameras with gas masks.  249 rounds of ammo for each, bring total cost up to a nice round $500,000.  Up to $300,000 can be taken from Trump's ammo fund if necessary; I never thought he'd really need four thousand bullets.

The Mil-34 is already super cramped. It was originally a 2+2 seater light utility copter, expanded to carry 6 troops into combat (because Mil-24 Hind crews refused to babysit infantry, but were willing to escort other copters with infantry).

It doesn't have hard points. The undercarriage is too low to jury rig a cannon on it. You can try squeezing it into the door with the rest of the troops, but it's going to be sardines in there.

On the other hand, Mil-34 is an ultra-agile copter, it can do aileron rolls and acrobatics, even with passengers in it. Mil-24 and Mil-26 are flying tanks, and are the go to gunships of choice.

[Aigre Excalibur]

Roll for information on alien biology: d20: (2) ahh well.

Spoiler: grey alien background (click to show/hide)

The "grey aliens"/Sectoids/Dover Demons are an inner terrestrial race of humans that have degenerated over millions of years after being driven off and massacred by subsequent human races. They cling to the last threads of dark and violent lemurian civilization that is said to have existed around 60 million years ago. The flying machines they use are the forgotten technologies of a later civilization, Atlantis. (3 Million years to around 10,000 BC) Atlantis learned to harness the Vril, which science fiction today refers to as the living force that sustains all life, and contained it within machinery and weaponry. The Vril powers their flying machines, from light shuttle craft to the old ancient flying battleships. The Vril was channeled into direct energy weapons. The Vril functions in exactly the same way that modern magicians understand magical energy. Mastery of the Vril was a mark of status in Atlantean society, and the ruling classes used their knowledge and power to dominate the masses.

The actual performance of old atlantean airships however, is actually rather dismal in comparison to modern aircraft. Any helicopter can catch up to them.

Spoiler: military fluff (click to show/hide)

The invention of radar sparked off the first UFO incidents, shootdowns and conspiracies. To the public eye, these incidents were usually blame on cold-war spying antics. But to the military, which allegedly recovered wreckages and bodies, it raised the question of what kind of idiots travel across the stars just to get shot down by a civilization sporting world war 2 tech.

The inner terrestrial remnants of the proto-human civilizations were allegedly eventually discovered and made contact with. They were left alone and largely ignored as "mostly harmless".

In our game however, we can fight against both: Fallen dark Lemurian humans who have gone on a !science! spree for some reason. And an inter-stellar invasion from forces we have not fully discovered yet.