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Game Gripes -- things that annoy you about LCS

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George_Chickens:
I love LCS, but I've been finding more and more things that frustrate me about the game, or updates that have removed something I quite enjoyed. I'm curious to the little annoyances of other players, too.

My biggest complaint has to be the removal of a ton of procedural generation. Sure, the maps were not very good, but it removed a great deal of strategy for me. What was once case the joint out > kidnap a fitting subject > interrogate them until they break or die > steal or create disguises > carefully plot my entry and exit, praying to Liberal Jesus that I'm not caught > carefully go by my exit route and escape, turned into make disguise > win.

Taberone:
1)Car crash victims teleporting to safe houses - A bug that will never get fixed.

2)The whole "Liberal Weapons causing instant alerts" system - Pure tediousness, you have to holster weapons every time.

3)Car chases prior to updates allowing you to dodge in vehicles - FOUR vehicles with SIX conservatives each almost every time you get into a car chase? If you can't escape, it's a total party kill every single time.

4)Lack of "stealth" options for CCS Safehouses other than the Bar and Grill - Even if you stealth kill the guards somehow, you still gotta bust open the door and fight an overpowered CCS Boss. Even with a full squad, M16's, and high Rifle skill, someone will die.

5)Automatic targeting system and no option for manual targeting - Liberals do not leave Badly Wounded targets alone, even though being Badly Wounded prevents you from attacking. This results in shit like 4 Liberals blasting the crap out of a single SWAT Officer and leaving his buddy free to kill a Liberal. This is really bad at the Army Base, when your Liberals can do enough damage to cripple a tank in a single turn. Despite the tank being crippled, Liberals still shoot at it and let the other pissed-off soldiers gun them down.

6)Mistakenly attacking innocents. Pure RNG fucking you over, even at high skill. It can even happen while stealth killing, meaning that your Liberal will start backstabbing Conservatives left and right before suddenly stabbing a poor hobo in the face.

7)No ability to set combat to "less-than-lethal", as in "only shoot Conservatives in the limbs". Limb shots never kill in LCS unless they bleed to death.

8)Nerfing the "shoot up the police station to avoid raids" strategy. Now I get raided even with the police station shut down, and sieges keep messing up my squad order and which vehicles are being used by my squad. Sieges are tedious because I have to re-organize every time.

9)Lack of raids from non-police and non-CCS. The cops and CCS are the only ones who raid me. I never get raided by corporations, rednecks, or even the CIA, even with sky-high heat.

10)RNG + Datenapping. How the hell does someone in Heavy Armor with a M249 get punched out while datenaping? And why do they never kidnap with other Liberals?

11)Wasted potential with the CCS Safehouses. The CCS Bunker has an unused alternate entrance. Why not have the CCS Boss make a run for the alternate entrance (or in this case, his escape route) and potentially escape if you're too slow to catch him? Instead, CCS Boss stays and gets curbstomped by six OP Liberals.

12)Skill grinding. Even with the Skill Progression set to "Fast", it doesn't affect all skills. You'll still have to drop several dozen or so pickup lines to boost Seduction each day, for example.

13)No individual reloading outside of combat. Entire squad will reload, even if the only guy that needs to reload is using Molotov Cocktails or a Revolver and the rest of the squad has M249's. Auto-reload only happens in the middle of combat, which is suicidal.

14)Assault Rifles are the only guns that matter. Assault Rifles are king in vanilla LCS, killing armored and unarmored Conservatives just fine. Pistols will pretty much bounce off of body armor most of the time, and melee weapons like knives don't do anything, even though Kevlar doesn't protect against knife attacks in reality.

15)SMGs. Useless, have their own dedicated skill, and the magazine size is 15 rounds for some dumb reason. Magazine size should be 30 rounds like the real MP5, damn it.

16)No control is given to you when Liberals get busted prostituting. Unlike getting caught selling drugs or graffiting, your Liberals just get arrested every time with no option to run or fight.

17)Targets being too dangerous to kidnap with no factors being considered other than a "Protects Against Kidnapping" attribute in the code. I've got a M249 and Heavy Armor. This fucking Lab Tech has a wimpy syringe. Yet I can't kidnap him.

18)Compiling the game. Massively frustrating and always fails for me. Thankfully, there are .exe versions instead that require no compiling, but then I'm slightly behind on updates and can't modify any of the hardcoded stuff.

19)Disappointing C+ Gun Control. Average joes with PISTOLS and Security Guards with SMGs are the worst that you'll get at C+. Instead of, I don't know, average joes with SMGs and Shotguns and Security Guards with Machineguns. Where is my second amendment taken to the extreme? Feels like Arch-Conservative Gun Control should actually be just Conservative Gun Control.

There's more gripes about LCS, but I can't remember all of them at the moment.

IsaacG:

--- Quote from: Taberone on July 24, 2017, 03:22:02 pm ---1)Car crash victims teleporting to safe houses - A bug that will never get fixed.

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I feel a  little bit more guilty every time you mention that. ;D

--- Quote from: Taberone on July 24, 2017, 03:22:02 pm ---5)Automatic targeting system and no option for manual targeting - Liberals do not leave Badly Wounded targets alone, even though being Badly Wounded prevents you from attacking. This results in shit like 4 Liberals blasting the crap out of a single SWAT Officer and leaving his buddy free to kill a Liberal. This is really bad at the Army Base, when your Liberals can do enough damage to cripple a tank in a single turn. Despite the tank being crippled, Liberals still shoot at it and let the other pissed-off soldiers gun them down.

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I think I know how to fix this one.

--- Quote from: Taberone on July 24, 2017, 03:22:02 pm ---18)Compiling the game. Massively frustrating and always fails for me. Thankfully, there are .exe versions instead that require no compiling, but then I'm slightly behind on updates and can't modify any of the hardcoded stuff.

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There's no fixing that except a complete rewrite.

--- Quote from: Taberone on July 24, 2017, 03:22:02 pm ---There's more gripes about LCS, but I can't remember all of them at the moment.

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I'm impressed as is, you have a better knowledge of the game than I do.
20) Secret Servicemen see through disguises.  The ability to see through disguises is hard coded by creature, meaning any custom creature can only have minimal ability to see through disguises without hardcoding that as well.

I might not have yet fixed any of the issues others have brought to my attention, but I am definitely keeping track.

Taberone:

--- Quote from: IsaacG on July 24, 2017, 08:47:23 pm ---I'm impressed as is, you have a better knowledge of the game than I do.
20) Secret Servicemen see through disguises.  The ability to see through disguises is hard coded by creature, meaning any custom creature can only have minimal ability to see through disguises without hardcoding that as well.

I might not have yet fixed any of the issues others have brought to my attention, but I am definitely keeping track.

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Used to be really obsessed with the game to the point where I would literally go through the code on Github and do nothing but read it, and if I wasn't looking at the source code for fun I'd be playing or modding LCS 24/7. That phase has unfortunately been over for a while.

TinFoilTopHat:

--- Quote from: Taberone on July 24, 2017, 03:22:02 pm ---
14)Assault Rifles are the only guns that matter. Assault Rifles are king in vanilla LCS, killing armored and unarmored Conservatives just fine. Pistols will pretty much bounce off of body armor most of the time, and melee weapons like knives don't do anything, even though Kevlar doesn't protect against knife attacks in reality.


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M249s are THE SHIT though, a squad of six people with high heavy weapons skill and M249s can easily go toe to toe with six navy seals, and will fully destroy a tank in one turn. Plus, it's easier to get a squad with high strength than high agility, because with augmentations, you can add 7 base strength to all of your Liberals and make them tanks

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