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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2017, 12:41:53 am »

I can't wait to see the forum threads popping : "my legendary adventurer got grabbed by a roc and now I'm 50z above ground, what do I do" :D
Climb up and ride it, obviously.
Be sure to get your own grasp on it BEFORE breaking its hold, though.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2017, 02:10:15 am »

I can't wait to see the forum threads popping : "my legendary adventurer got grabbed by a roc and now I'm 50z above ground, what do I do" :D
Climb up and ride it, obviously.
Then piledrive it into the ground.
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2017, 02:39:53 am »

I can't wait to see the forum threads popping : "my legendary adventurer got grabbed by a roc and now I'm 50z above ground, what do I do" :D
Climb up and ride it, obviously.
Then piledrive it into the ground.
Grab a tree branch at the last second.
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2017, 08:12:12 am »

I can't wait to see the forum threads popping : "my legendary adventurer got grabbed by a roc and now I'm 50z above ground, what do I do" :D
Climb up and ride it, obviously.
Then piledrive it into the ground.
Grab a tree branch at the last second.
Good idea; that way you'll get your arm ripped off just before you splatter on the ground.
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2017, 12:28:31 am »

I can't wait to see the forum threads popping : "my legendary adventurer got grabbed by a roc and now I'm 50z above ground, what do I do" :D
Climb up and ride it, obviously.
Then piledrive it into the ground.
Grab a tree branch at the last second.
Good idea; that way you'll get your arm ripped off just before you splatter on the ground.
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2017, 03:35:24 pm »

Imagine a merging between wrestling, dragging, and mounting mechanics.  "Mount" becomes a wrestling move, allowing you to grab wild animals and try to stay on their back while they try to throw you off.  The same move on smaller creatures would just let you sit on them.

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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2017, 03:43:56 pm »

How about after you mount a creature a lot of times it will submit to your will, allowing you to ride it without it throwing you off?

Imagine pulling a Daenarys Targaryen by mounting a dragon, then flying into an elven forest retreat and burning it all to the ground.

Say, this might actually not be too overwhelmingly hard to implement a simplified version of this in a DFHack Lua script... I'll look into it.
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2017, 05:05:36 am »

I can't wait to see the forum threads popping : "my legendary adventurer got grabbed by a roc and now I'm 50z above ground, what do I do" :D
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2017, 07:25:51 am »

Add this to advfort in some of the functions around line #400 or so:
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function SetCarryRef(args)
    local mnt
    local rid
    local pos=args.pos
    for k,v in pairs(df.global.world.units.active) do
        if v.pos.x==pos.x and v.pos.y==pos.y and v.pos.z==pos.z then
mnt = df.global.world.units.active[0]
rid = v
  mnt.general_refs:insert("#",{new=df.general_ref_unit_riderst,unit_id=rid.id})
                  dfhack.maps.ensureTileBlock(rid.pos).occupancy[rid.pos.x%16][rid.pos.y%16].unit = false
  rid.relationship_ids.RiderMount=mnt.id
  rid.pos.x=mnt.pos.x
  rid.pos.y=mnt.pos.y
  rid.pos.z=mnt.pos.z
  rid.flags1.rider=true
  mnt.flags1.ridden=true
  require("utils").insert_sorted(df.global.world.units.other.ANY_RIDER,rid,"id")
            return
        end
    end
end

Then go down to the line that starts with actions={ and add this somewhere in the middle:
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    {"Carry"           ,SetCarryRef,{}},
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2017, 07:51:00 am »

Is it possible to wrestle and pull someone while retaining your grip, pulling them along with you?
If you can fly (I'm currently enjoying the advantages of being a peregrine falcon man), can you pull them up with you?
That would be great - swoop down into a group of goblins, grab one, and abduct him into the air to deal with him somewhere else.

Just a heads up, a peregrine falcon man isn't likely to be picking a goblin up. Animal people are an average between the animal and person that's combined. So that particular creature will probably have to settle for raking peoples' faces with their claws. Still a brutal attack, and certainly worth the effort. Just not a lift.
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2017, 10:55:36 am »

Is it possible to wrestle and pull someone while retaining your grip, pulling them along with you?
If you can fly (I'm currently enjoying the advantages of being a peregrine falcon man), can you pull them up with you?
That would be great - swoop down into a group of goblins, grab one, and abduct him into the air to deal with him somewhere else.
Just a heads up, a peregrine falcon man isn't likely to be picking a goblin up. Animal people are an average between the animal and person that's combined. So that particular creature will probably have to settle for raking peoples' faces with their claws. Still a brutal attack, and certainly worth the effort. Just not a lift.
At base, I'd agree, PFM is little over half the size of a goblin. It remains to be put to the test as to whether one could develop the mass to knock over a goblin, or if the gravity adds enough (or any) momentum to a swooping charge. Can't test this in arena because muscle and fat tissue thickness don't automatically scale when strength/stored fat are directly modified.
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2017, 11:38:14 am »

Add this to advfort in some of the functions around line #400 or so:
oh yeah I remember having a carry, drag, mount and Stuff folks into a item function for dfhack for several years now due to help by warmist.
kinda made looking at this thread in puzzle confusion though.
loads of fun for making a chain of dragging units each being pulled by another person.
the drag code that I had for years back, probably need an update since relationships section in dfhack got rewritten.
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though nice to see max making addons to advfort.
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2017, 03:24:37 pm »

*unskilled goblin is dropped from 50z in the air*
*parries a bird mid-air*
*floats the rest of the way down kung-fu style*
*explodes PC with a glance*
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2017, 08:03:17 pm »

*unskilled goblin is dropped from 50z in the air*
*parries a bird mid-air*
*floats the rest of the way down kung-fu style*
*explodes PC with a glance*

PC as in, computer, or primary character?
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Re: Ways to drag enemies?
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2017, 08:04:43 pm »

*unskilled goblin is dropped from 50z in the air*
*parries a bird mid-air*
*floats the rest of the way down kung-fu style*
*explodes PC with a glance*

PC as in, computer, or primary character?

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