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[NUKE9.13]

Electromagnetic Matter Shield

Hmm. A tricky prospect. Numerous new technologies would be required to make this work, along with substantial engineering efforts. Considering you don't have any prior experience, and this isn't something that exists even theoretically today (as far as I know?), this would probably be Ludicrous.
A more primitive version may come down to Very Hard.
Developing electromagnetic tech in other, simpler ways first would also help.

Rocket fighter Raptor

Not especially ambitious techwise, you have to remember that your colony has basically no weapons-making experience yet. The numerous elements and multifaceted nature of this design would make it Hard, and likely to drop a few features even on a 'success'.

I am strongly against purely economic designs that don't impact battlefield in any way. Such long term things should be done when we have advantage, not when we are even. Also, we need designs to use production points on.

So, to be clear, there won't be any fighting happening the first few turns. Not sure if that impacts your thinking.

[Strongpoint]

I am strongly against not allowing for types of thinking and planning that will have absolutely massive long-term benefits.

First turns are initiative. Doing turns like pan a3 can be a good long term move on turn 10 of a chess game but it is an awful turn 1. Even as there will be no combat in first few turns we need balanced army, not focus on one design and production rates

[Strongpoint]

Rocket bomber Viper
Viper is a relatively simple vessel with a crew of two: Pilot and navigator\bomber. It is powered by two rocket engines and has aerodynamic shape and wings allowing it to operate both in space and in atmosphere. It has no internal weapons but can carry up to two tons of bombs on its wings. Bombs themselves are mitiralizied explosive devices used in mining industry. Those bombs use either gravity or inertia to reach their target. Viper's hull is made from durable and heat resistant materials giving it some protection against energy weapons and allowing reentry into most atmospheres. It can be launched from either Interplanetary Transport Craft or from land using landing strips.


This one is intentionally simple. It is something we can start producing immediately. It can be a very refittable platform. It gives us experience in armor, explosives, engines.

[Talion]

As we have a request to start voting in the core thread.

Fusion Power Generator-Reactors Mk 1.0 (1): Talion

[Shadowclaw777]

Fusion Power Generator-Reactors Mk 1.0 (2): Talion, Shadowclaw

[Jilladilla]

This'll act as a springboard to so many more advanced techs it isn't even funny, so yes let's go for it!

Fusion Power Generator-Reactors Mk 1.0 (3): Talion, Shadowclaw, Jilladilla

[KhazintheDark]

So, quick question... Are we actually designing anything that contributes towards our ability to take and hold a planet or have we built a reactor?

[Jilladilla]

So, quick question... Are we actually designing anything that contributes towards our ability to take and hold a planet or have we built a reactor?

This is pretty much an industrial power plant, it won't be directly usable in our ships just yet, but do note that NUKE did say that making a Fusion Generator for our ships right out would be Very Hard, but like this? Merely Hard, and it'd make designing a proper ship based version much, much easier if it succeeds.

We have a plan, don't worry.

[KhazintheDark]

So, quick question... Are we actually designing anything that contributes towards our ability to take and hold a planet or have we built a reactor?

This is pretty much an industrial power plant, it won't be directly usable in our ships just yet, but do note that NUKE did say that making a Fusion Generator for our ships right out would be Very Hard, but like this? Merely Hard, and it'd make designing a proper ship based version much, much easier if it succeeds.

We have a plan, don't worry.

Has the plan been written down? Also if we have mods for the discord can somebody add me please.

Edit: Also I have many, many questions to ask Nuke once he's back online.

[Thanatos Russ]

If we don't make long-term inventions when where are totally safe for a couple of turns then we are never going to make them because the constant pressure to counter the enemy will distract us.

Let's go with Madman's longterm approach. Hopefully they are not going to invent anything that hard counters us by luck.

[Madman198237]

QS-CPP-95 'Beacon'
To prove ourselves better than our heathen neighbors, we have labored hard and long, searching the texts brought from Earth. Taking designs for something called a "Tokamak magnetic confinement system" we have assembled our best scientists and begun the long process of producing a version of one of these, hoping to have our entire planet powered by the awesome majesty of the might of the stars. Utilizing as many resources as possible and spread over as much land as necessary, we hope to reduce the difficulty by giving our scientists plenty of room and resources to work. The device works by channeling a deuterium and lithium plasma in a toroid (Donut shape) through the use of toroidal/ring-shaped magnets wrapped around the outside of the torus. The heat from the fusion will be used to heat water around the reaction chamber itself, which will then be used to generate power through steam turbines as usual in fission reactors. There will also be a lithium "blanket" in places, which will passively be turned into tritium as high-energy neutrons from the reactor itself strike the blanket. The tritium will then be used in the reactor itself. Deuterium, the other active component, will be harvested from seawater.

Fusion Power Generator-Reactors Mk 1.0 (3): Talion, Shadowclaw, Jilladilla
QS-CPP-95 'Beacon': (1) Madman

By specifying reactor type we may or may not get a bonus to difficulty, according to the GM. It all depends on how he would have interpreted the original reactor proposal.

[Jilladilla]

It offers much more explanation as to the how, therefore it gets my vote.

Fusion Power Generator-Reactors Mk 1.0 (2): Talion, Shadowclaw
QS-CPP-95 'Beacon': (2) Madman, Jilladilla

[Thanatos Russ]

Fusion Power Generator-Reactors Mk 1.0 (2): Talion, Shadowclaw
QS-CPP-95 'Beacon': (3) Madman, Jilladilla, thanatos russ

[KhazintheDark]

Did a thing, have a shopping list of what we need to design for.

List of designs to make:

Abbreviations: ES-Environmentally Sealed, AT-Anti Tank, AA-Anti Air, AAA-Anti Air Artillery, SWS-Space Weapon System, RWS-Recoiless Weapon System, APC-Armoured Personnel Carrier, ICBM-Intercontinental Ballistic Missile, MANPAD-Man Portable Air Defence, MCMV-Mine Countermeasures Vehicle

Infantry:
   Standard Rifle

   Standard Sidearm

   Shotgun

   Designated Marksman Rifle

   Sniper Rifle

   Anti-Material Rifle

   Reusable Anti-Tank Launcher

   MANPAD

   Uniform

   Standard non-ES Armour

   Standard ES Armour

   Standard Infantry Space Weapon

Land:
   Transport

   Engineering
      - Mine Clearance
      - Bridging
      - Entrenchment
      - Combat Engineer Transport
      - Amphibious Crossing Ferry
      - Combat Engineering (can be as simple as putting a hydralic dozer blade on a tank)
      - Breaching

   Electronic Warfare
      - Electronic Attack (Radio/Radar Jamming)
      - Electronic Support (Provide: (1) initial detection or knowledge of foreign systems, (2) a library of technical and operational data on foreign systems, and (3) tactical combat information utilising that library.)

   Reconnaissance
      - Armoured Car (Think more,
      - Armoured Scout (Autocannon aim: 30+mm 90+ RPM) [Technically Light Armour]
      - AT Guided Missile Platform
      

   Troop-Carriers
      - Command
      - APCs (Transport into battle, have smoke and maybe a machine gun)
      - IFVs (Close Quarters and Anti-Armour fire support)
      - Amphibious (if possible combine with IFV)

   Light Armour
      - Tank Destroyer
      - Scout Tanks
      - Mortar Carriers
      - Self Propelled Artillery
      - Air Defense

   Main Battle Tank
      - Capable of mounting a Light, Medium or Heavy Gun system
      - See Armata Universal Combat Platform for aim of hull chassis

   AA
      - Self Propelled
      - Missile
      - Anti-UAV
      - Gatling Gun (last-ditch)
      - Laser
      - Railgun

   Artillery
      - Self Propelled
      - Towed (by Transport)

Sea:
   Landing Craft

   Submarine
      - Attack
      - Missile

   Boats
      - MCMV
      - Minelayer
      - Patrol
   (Direct Combat)
      - Torpedo Boat (not torpedo exclusive)
      - Missile Boat (not missile exclusive)

   Corvette
      - Missile
      - Torpedo
      - MCMV
      - Patrol

   Frigate
      - Anti-Submarine
      - Air Defense
      - Missile
      - Torpedo

   Destroyer
      - Anti-Submarine
      - Air Defense
      - Stealth
      - Missile
      - Surface-Warfare
      - Helicopter Carrier

   Cruiser
      - Missile, Torpedo, Gun, Helicopter
      - Battlecruiser (Gun, Missile, Rockets, Torpedo.etc)

   Aircraft Carrier
      - Small
      - Large

Air:
   UAV
      - Multirole (preferred modular)
         - Reconnaissance
         - Combat
         - Logistics

   Combat
      Bomber
         - Tactical
         - Strategic

      Fighter
         - Aerial Superiority

      Close Air Support
         - BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT

      Gunship
         - Ground Attack
         - Helicopters

      Multi-role
         - Strike Fighter
         - Fighter-Bomber

   Non-Combat
      Aerial Refueling

      Cargo
         - Transport and Logistics

      Command and Control

      Communications

      E-War
         - Attack
         - Support

      Observation

      Reconnaissance

Space:

      Mass Driver
         - Logistics

   Unmanned
      - Expendable Launch Systems
         - We'll want some for delivering supplies to

      - Communications Satellites

      - Reconnaissance Satellites

      - Navigation and Timing Satellites (GPS)

      - Meteorology Surveillance

      - Space Surveillance and Detection Satellites

      - Defense Satellite/Killsat
         - Laser/missile based, power provided by solar/nuclear, no recoil, instant hit, relatively short range due to beam expansion and time on target area.
         - Interception

      - Reusable Spaceplane

      - Orbital Strike Satellites (Recommend against naming Project Mjolnir...)
         - Rods from God
         - Precision Strikes

      - Orbital Denial Satellites (If we want to be a dicks. Essentially goes into orbit and blows itself up in an attempt to create a load of shrapnel.)

   Manned
      - Reusable Spaceplane

      - Mining Vessel

      - Shipyard

      - Ore Processing

      - Research Lab

[Madman198237]

Spoiler'd for length even though I brutally axe-murdered most of it. Most of it will remain a pipe dream, honestly. Khazin, we can't get all of that and not all of it is necessary.

I've left almost all my comments and ideas in parentheses at the ends of these things, but some of them are mixed in and among the designs. We will not be getting everything on this list, I suspect, unless this AR drags on for a long time. Tomorrow I'll work up a list of priorities to get our forces ready to roll on the first turn.

Spoiler: Ground (click to show/hide)

Infantry:
   Standard Infantry Weapon, must work in space (All gunpowder-based guns do, so will rockets, railguns, etc.)

   Designated Marksman Rifle (Probably unnecessary, but I've left it in case our primary weapon is not a rifle or is not capable of long-range fire for any reason)

   Reusable Anti-Armor/Anti-Air Combination Launcher (Definitely important, though vehicle support is far and away a more pressing concern)

   Standard ES Armour/Uniform (Must always be environmentally sealed if possible, standard uniform must be armored in some way and include a helmet)

Land:

   Engineering (Let's wait until we see the obstacles we're facing, alright? We're very limited on designs)

   Electronic Warfare (Get some EW fast for use on warships)
      - Electronic Attack (Radio/Radar Jamming)
      - Electronic Support (Provide: (1) initial detection or knowledge of foreign systems, (2) a library of technical and operational data on foreign systems, and (3) tactical combat information utilising that library.)     

   Troop-Carriers
      - Command
      - APCs (Carry some form of AT munitions, as well as something for AA work...when it becomes necessary.)

   Main Battle Tank
      - Capable of mounting a Light, Medium or Heavy Gun system
      - See Armata Universal Combat Platform for aim of hull chassis

   Artillery
      - Self Propelled

Sea:
    Utilize spacecraft instead. Designs and revisions are too precious to be spent on vehicles we won't be able to transport (too big) and won't be able to use on more than 4 worlds.

Spoiler: Air (click to show/hide)

Air:
   UAV
      - Multirole (preferred modular)
         - Reconnaissance
         - Tiny. As in, "can be carried by a single soldier".

      Space-To-Air
         - Aerial Superiority
         - Close Air Support
         - BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT (Left for laughs. Whatever in-atmo vehicles we deploy need to be capable of limited spaceflight (No I don't pretend to know how in the blazes that's going to work, unless we get REALLY good delta-V from our magnetos) for recovery, so they might as well be multi-purpose. I'm literally envisioning a "fighter" the size of a Halo Longsword, capable of shooting down, well, *everything* as well as firing missiles at any other targets.)

Spoiler: Noncombatant (click to show/hide)

   Non-Combat
      MOST OF THIS IS ABSTRACTED OUT. Remember, we don't need an in-flight refueling system for two reasons: One, it's TEDIOUS for players to have to make one and thus it's abstracted out of the game, and TWO: Our vehicles should all have the fuel capability to just not need those things.

      Cargo
         - Transport and Logistics

      Communications
         - Better INTPLAN radios and short-range radios, with encryption. That is all.

Spoiler: Space (click to show/hide)

Space:

      Mass Driver
         - Logistics
         - Nice entry to railgun tech, probably entirely useless unless we build a space station without first having carbon nanofiber tech to build a space elevator with.

   Unmanned
      - Defense Satellite/Killsat
         - Laser/missile based, power provided by solar/nuclear, no recoil, instant hit, relatively short range due to beam expansion and time on target area.
         - Kinetic Bombardment for ground support. Rods initially accelerated by railgun means, can be used against space targets.
         - Interception

   Manned
      - Mining Vessel (Probably not necessary. I'd go for an antimatter collection vessel so we can use antimatter to destroy EVERYTHING!)

      - Shipyard (If we're going to do this, it happens in turn 5 and we move ship construction up a bit, so we have the shipyard in place immediately)

      - Ore Processing (Probably unnecessary, such things don't need direct player involvement and we don't have actions to spare.

      - Research Lab (To accomplish what?)