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Author Topic: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks  (Read 1418 times)

Gigabytebob

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Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« on: January 07, 2018, 04:35:27 am »

im sure you have asked your self "looks like i will run out of booze this winter and i can't make a well why can't my dwarves just drink milk :'(" well for one milk actually has bacteria and possibly disease's but do not fear you can simply boil the milk and stir to pasteurize it (done at a still) and get rid of all that bacteria and disease's "well" you might say "what if i don't want my dwarves to be puny milk drinkers" well you can simply make kumis or kefir by fermenting the milk at a still and there now you have alcoholic milk
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2018, 10:50:24 am »

Pasteurisation is way after the 1300 cut-off, so it will never be included in the vanilla (modern mods might include this).

However, food spoiling and how to prevent it could be added in.
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2018, 11:04:28 am »

The process of boiling liquids to make them safe to drink and prevent spoilage has been in use for at least 1500 years.  What Louis Pasteur discovered was that there was a temperature below the boiling point that was sufficient to kill bacteria without denaturing the drink's chemistry and lowering its quality.

Functionally, this is basically just cooking drinks.  I don't see any reason why it can't be in the game, though it might fall under the "unnecessary details" rule.

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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2018, 02:58:04 pm »

unnecessary details rule?
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 10:03:21 am »

Basically Toady doesn't like adding unnecessarily complicated features without contributing to the gameplay.  For example, requiring hand tools for workshop tasks.  It's kind of vague where the boundary lies of course.

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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 01:29:09 pm »

There is this small thing called lactose intolerance. 
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2018, 04:43:56 pm »

i love unnecessary details tho :[
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 07:07:44 am »

i love unnecessary details tho :[

Lactose intolerance isn't actually in the game, it just explains why nobody would drink milk but eat cheese fine.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2018, 01:19:54 pm »

I vote no on Pasteurization, but fermented milk drinks are definitely something we should have!  Yes to Kumis and Kefir--and come to think, how about just plain yogurt? 
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2018, 01:29:05 pm »

I vote no on Pasteurization, but fermented milk drinks are definitely something we should have!  Yes to Kumis and Kefir--and come to think, how about just plain yogurt?

Don't those things come from the Mongols?
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2018, 01:37:16 pm »

I vote no on Pasteurization, but fermented milk drinks are definitely something we should have!  Yes to Kumis and Kefir--and come to think, how about just plain yogurt?

Don't those things come from the Mongols?

That just makes them more awesome and therefore necessary.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2018, 02:48:18 pm »

That just makes them more awesome and therefore necessary.

There are no nomadic mongol equivalents in the game at the moment.
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2018, 04:29:07 pm »

That just makes them more awesome and therefore necessary.

There are no nomadic mongol equivalents in the game at the moment.

Wandering animal-people tribes?

In any case, Dwarves already use Machuatl swords so keeping fantasy cultures in perfect step with real ones doesn't seem to be all that important to the game's overall theme.
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2018, 09:42:59 pm »

That just makes them more awesome and therefore necessary.

There are no nomadic mongol equivalents in the game at the moment.

Wandering animal-people tribes?

In any case, Dwarves already use Machuatl swords so keeping fantasy cultures in perfect step with real ones doesn't seem to be all that important to the game's overall theme.

I'd like for animal-people tribes to have some perks. Like food and drinks. Probably in the update that makes animal-people more fleshed out. Probably in the aftermath of Myth and Magic or in the release proper of Laws and Customs.
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Re: Pasteurizing milk and alcoholic milk drinks
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 07:04:45 am »

Wandering animal-people tribes?

In any case, Dwarves already use Machuatl swords so keeping fantasy cultures in perfect step with real ones doesn't seem to be all that important to the game's overall theme.

Stone swords come before metal ones obviously, since using stone is a prerequisite to use metal. 
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