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adventurers should be able to catch vermin fish.
IndigoFenix:
--- Quote from: GoblinCookie on January 12, 2018, 03:04:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: FantasticDorf on January 11, 2018, 06:12:36 pm ---Causing vermin to be impaled fully on spears to be retrieved would suffice for spear fishing, given you can either swim in range or stab from the shoreline.
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The problem is that really the kind of spears we use in warfare are rather subpar for spear-fishing. We ought to have special fishing spears, but if we allow people to fish using normal spears poorly then a lot of folks might not realize the subparity.
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By the same token, battle-axes aren't particularly good at chopping wood. Some liberties are taken for the sake of simplicity. I think it's fine.
GoblinCookie:
--- Quote from: IndigoFenix on January 16, 2018, 08:05:19 am ---By the same token, battle-axes aren't particularly good at chopping wood. Some liberties are taken for the sake of simplicity. I think it's fine.
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How are battle axes not good at chopping wood? Wood chopping axes are not as good as battle axes for fighting, but the reverse is not so true I think.
With fishes the situation is that a combat spear is pretty heavy in order mostly to keep the thing snapping or from being simply brushed aside by an enemy. A fishing spear is quite light and thin, so that it would probably break if you tried to use it for fighting. You could however use the combat spear to spear fish, but it would be rather subpar.
Rockeater:
--- Quote from: GoblinCookie on January 19, 2018, 03:08:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: IndigoFenix on January 16, 2018, 08:05:19 am ---By the same token, battle-axes aren't particularly good at chopping wood. Some liberties are taken for the sake of simplicity. I think it's fine.
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How are battle axes not good at chopping wood? Wood chopping axes are not as good as battle axes for fighting, but the reverse is not so true I think.
With fishes the situation is that a combat spear is pretty heavy in order mostly to keep the thing snapping or from being simply brushed aside by an enemy. A fishing spear is quite light and thin, so that it would probably break if you tried to use it for fighting. You could however use the combat spear to spear fish, but it would be rather subpar.
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IIRC Battle Axes are lighter then wood cutting ones because wood is harder then flash
GoblinCookie:
--- Quote from: Rockeater on January 19, 2018, 04:57:39 pm ---IIRC Battle Axes are lighter then wood cutting ones because wood is harder then flash
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Even flesh surrounded by metal plates?
FantasticDorf:
Regardless with the teeny tiny contact area its sufficient to hit any fish given they are accurate & proficient enough and most small land creatures also if you were inclined to kill and pin them down to a spear to cook over a fire later. Feed yourself on a diet of caught dead rats for instance.
Self made obsidian spears made the same way as obsidian axes as can do the job of a genuine fishing spear without compromising on weight, wood without sharpness modifiers is not enough by itself, especially since we don't mimic sharpened wooden spears and equip elves with blunt training dummies instead.
So i don't particularly follow your arguement GoblinCookie that the material isn't up to the job to do any reliable fishing. Whether the material's weight plays a part to making copper spears worse for lunging at fast scurrying vermin with it is just a game issue since all spears intrinsically are the same, changing the spear to be any such more wide and a specialist fishing spear to be more narrow and nimble wouldn't fix anything.
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