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make all your military both ranged and melee
« on: January 16, 2018, 05:17:35 pm »

A dwarf that gets a hammer equipped, and after that a crossbow (and quiver, and bolts) will spar in the barracks using the hammer, while carrying the crossbow as second weapon. As soon as you remove the hammers from the equipment though, they will go for archery practice. If you then assign the hammer again, they will keep practicing archery. If you remove the crossbow, they will go back to sparring in a barracks.

This can be even used to quickly make them swap weapons in combat. Make them drop the one they're currently using, and they will seamlessly swap to the second weapon. If you make sure you have no stockpiles accepting crossbows, quivers, and bolts during battle, the weapons will remain where they dropped them, easy to quickly equip them again.

I guess technically, all military dwarves could be equipped with a crossbow, for a first volley attack, and then switch to their preferred melee. Needn't be restricted to hammers.

EDIT: oh, hey, my elves will even spar in the barracks using their crossbows as hammers, (while wearing hammers as secondary weapon), as long as I make sure they have no archery range assigned, or they will go crazy on the shooting practice.
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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2018, 09:02:32 pm »

So the only downsides is time spent on stockpiling dropped equipment & micromanaging?

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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2018, 11:11:23 pm »

It's like everything else in DF. The only problem is micromanagement...
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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 03:33:34 am »

So the only downsides is time spent on stockpiling dropped equipment & micromanaging?
yep, and the micromanagement is pretty minimal
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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2018, 04:51:00 am »

What happens if you have a hammer in one hand and a crossbow in the other? You know, I just had to ask...
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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2018, 05:04:33 am »

they only use the weapon that was equipped first
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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2018, 04:12:07 pm »

This is an interesting find. Can you get them to drop the crossbow if they have no archery range? I see that you got them to start practicing with the crossbow as a hammer. Do they do that immediately or switch to preferred weapon?


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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2018, 04:27:52 pm »

This is an interesting find. Can you get them to drop the crossbow if they have no archery range? I see that you got them to start practicing with the crossbow as a hammer. Do they do that immediately or switch to preferred weapon?
making them drop the crossbow is as simple as de-assigning it from them in the (m)iliary>>(e)quipment screen. They'll drop the crossbow and quiver, and switch to using their melee weapon that was carried as second weapon, as their first weapon. Re-assigning the crossbow will still make them use their melee weapon. To make them use crossbows again, you need to un-assign the melee weapon. It's a rotation system.
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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2018, 04:29:08 pm »

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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2018, 06:50:50 pm »

When you unassign weapons, are you doing it for each squad position? Have you tried using uniform assignment to the entire squad, where you would have a couple of uniforms that are duplicates of each other except for their weapons?
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Re: make all your military both ranged and melee
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2018, 07:07:06 pm »

Haven't tried, I never use uniforms, but I suppose that could work as well
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