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PatrikLundell

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6105 on: November 28, 2024, 04:52:31 am »

@Putnam's answer is actually a bit understated, as functionality has been reshuffled so what used to be one key action can now be two or more mouse key actions, and some functionality that formerly resided in multiple keys now can be in a single mouse key action (but most often split into several, but along different lines).
Thus, it wouldn't just be the UI that would have to be duplicated, but the functionality underneath would have to be reverted as well for the old key binding scheme to work. That already exists, in the form of the pre premium versions, at the cost of no change to anything else either. That is, however, the best that can be offered with the old keybinding scheme.

Thus, there's no going back to the muscle memory keybindings. If keyboard support is restored (which is intended, eventually), and rebinding of keys is supported (which I hope, as that's generally a good thing, even though I'd probably rarely use it myself), the best you could do is a mashup between some things that use the old UI bindings and some that are using new ones (or ones made up by the re-binder). I think such an attempt would result in something rather bad, though, as the advantage of re-binding everything from scratch means bindings can be more logical than the result of decades of adding new keybindings to free keys as new functionality was introduced, so re-learning a new set with better bindings should be better in the long term than clinging to an increasingly weird mix of old and new.

Here's hoping there won't be too many more years before full keyboard support is restored.
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evil_pigeon

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6106 on: November 28, 2024, 06:42:34 am »

i don't know about anyone else but i can't get it to update from beta 25 to 26, even switching back to non-beta and back doesn't do anything

edit: scratch that, apparently verifying files fixed it lol
« Last Edit: November 28, 2024, 06:46:36 am by evil_pigeon »
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TheFlame52

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6107 on: November 28, 2024, 08:49:13 am »

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that keyboard controls are a lot easier on the hands and wrists than mouse controls.

A_Curious_Cat

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6108 on: November 28, 2024, 10:31:14 pm »

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that keyboard controls are a lot easier on the hands and wrists than mouse controls.

What about trackballs (both finger-operated and thumb-operated), trackpoints, and touchscreens? How do each of them compare to using a mouse (and to each other)?  How do they compare to using the keyboard?


Anyways, I would suggest providing support for both keyboard and pointing devices.  Anything you can do with a pointing device, you should also be able to do with just the keyboard.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2024, 10:36:00 pm by A_Curious_Cat »
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Urist Mchateselves

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6109 on: November 30, 2024, 02:29:09 pm »

Are you planning to expand upon the possible effects of magical items before the release of adventure mode?
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If you're so sure that you're gonna end up killing all of dwarven civilization, why not make a statue depicting 2147483647 dead dwarves, all of which are burning? Name it something good, like Deaddead the Dead Dead Dead-Dead of Dying. Just put it in the main hall or something, as a grim reminder that they're all gonna die.

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6110 on: December 01, 2024, 01:30:44 pm »

I am curious, what country did Tarn Adams move to when he got married?
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jecowa

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6111 on: December 01, 2024, 02:34:07 pm »

I’m curious if Toady One visited ThreeToe for Thanksgiving and also what dishes were served at his Thanksgiving meal.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #6112 on: Today at 09:56:01 am »

I’m curious if Toady One visited ThreeToe for Thanksgiving and also what dishes were served at his Thanksgiving meal.

I don't think my question was inappropriate.
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