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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2018, 01:16:07 pm »

Can saves from 06 be used with 07?
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2018, 01:33:50 pm »

Yes, but not the other way around.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2018, 01:38:00 pm »

Ah, excellent. Thank you.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2018, 04:59:31 am »

Hmm. Seems like militia who die on raids remain lurking in the military schedule if you have schedule orders which select squad members. Seems to deactivate the ability to set an alert too. Placing a new dorf in the dead guys slot solves the issue. But I guess there may be deeper implications.

Will try to recreate over the weekend. Traversing the military screen feels like walking on eggshells at the best of times so I think it's best to take my time working out what's going on.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2018, 09:37:42 pm »

Here's an attempt at fixing the linux freeze:

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/df_44_07_linux_test.tar.bz2

Worked for the save I checked, and the fix kind-of makes sense, though something must have happened in optimization for the code to become freeze-causing.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2018, 10:30:22 am »

Hmm. Something that might be relevant for army stuff, Fantastic and I have been having a hell of a time testing this bug: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=10312

So far it seems that a civ only ever seems capable of sending a single army out at one time, which would contribute to the generally inconsistent nature of a hostile civ's response time. Problem is this thing is a giant pain in the ass to confirm, only disprove via seeing a confirmed case of a civ sending out more than one army at the same time, in the current version.

Which so far I haven't seen.

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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2018, 12:02:12 pm »

It may be additionally contrary to whatever changes happened between 43.05 when the bug was originally listed and the artifact and subsequent raid release with the introduction of tactics, but those are additional factors i guess that would need to be accounted for with cross version tests to see if factors like generals possessing the highest level of tactics play a part for the more relevant requirements to outsmart a opponent and draw higher odds in the civs favor.

Chaosvolt's latest entry was from a modded 44.07 game for reference though they didn't mention that on their note.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2018, 12:58:25 pm »

Chaosvolt's latest entry was from a modded 44.07 game for reference though they didn't mention that on their note.

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Note that these were with raw-defined versions of lords given MILITARY_STRATEGY that seems to suggest your edited info isn't correct. ._.

That was mentioning that yes, I modded the raws to test something. Namely testing one proposed solution.

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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2018, 08:09:19 pm »

Here's an attempt at fixing the linux freeze:

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/df_44_07_linux_test.tar.bz2

Worked for the save I checked, and the fix kind-of makes sense, though something must have happened in optimization for the code to become freeze-causing.

Thank you, the fix worked great and the game does not crash anymore  :)
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2018, 02:52:57 am »

Here's an attempt at fixing the linux freeze:

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/df_44_07_linux_test.tar.bz2

Worked for the save I checked, and the fix kind-of makes sense, though something must have happened in optimization for the code to become freeze-causing.

In my save, the freeze has been replaced with a crash at about the same moment. However there is a raid ongoing, so maybe whatever caused the freeze has been fixed, but the raid-related crash happens to happen just after that?
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2018, 12:39:40 pm »

It is quite possible, especially since the freeze was raid-related (not necessarily player raids, which is why it was happening to everybody.)  If your save's on a bug report/DFFD, I can take a look at it.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2018, 04:57:52 pm »

Hmm. Something that might be relevant for army stuff, Fantastic and I have been having a hell of a time testing this bug: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=10312

So far it seems that a civ only ever seems capable of sending a single army out at one time, which would contribute to the generally inconsistent nature of a hostile civ's response time. Problem is this thing is a giant pain in the ass to confirm, only disprove via seeing a confirmed case of a civ sending out more than one army at the same time, in the current version.

Which so far I haven't seen.

This, is a scary one. Does it relate at all to the "sieges milling around outside for too long" bug?

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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2018, 06:48:41 pm »

This, is a scary one. Does it relate at all to the "sieges milling around outside for too long" bug?

The actual behaviour in which they do that non-aggressively was fixed in 44.07 i think (leading to a funny siege where they'd arrive and run back out again), but nobody would know if there was a relation or not for certain without more backing evidence.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.44.07 Released
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2018, 10:10:33 pm »

This, is a scary one. Does it relate at all to the "sieges milling around outside for too long" bug?

The actual behaviour in which they do that non-aggressively was fixed in 44.07 i think (leading to a funny siege where they'd arrive and run back out again), but nobody would know if there was a relation or not for certain without more backing evidence.
Yeah, that seems to be fixed now. Lost a couple of fortresses when an ambush was (correctly) followed by a rush for the front gate.
Note to self: Prioritize patrols, hunters and early warning system pastures...
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