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[Thorfinn]

44.05

I embarked with 2M and 4F of three different egglayers. I dug out a room to hold them all, placed nestboxes with a 1x1 pasture on each, then a 4x6 pasture in the same room for all the males. The pastures do not overlap. There's actually a 1 space gap between the 4x6 and the nestboxes.Eggs laid just fine, and two seasons later, nothing. I checked with DFHack, and all clutches were non-fertile. OK, fine. Gather all the eggs, and watch as new ones get laid. I'm most of the way through the second laying now, and every nest is non-fertile.

I'm pretty sure that I used the same setup in 43.05, and usually had fertile clutches. Did something change in terms of accessibility, or am I misremembering, or maybe just incredibly unlucky? Maybe all the males are gay or something? How would I know without DT? Anything I can do about it if that's the case? Other than start a new embark, I mean?

[thvaz]

I brought two roosters and 4 chicken in my embark and never got a single egg hatched.

[Xyon]

I have never tried using pastures/pens that are next to each-other to separate males/females before.  I started a new game a week ago in the same new version, 2 female turkeys, 2 male turkeys,  penned all four in the same zone with nest boxes, I have had a lot of poults hatch.

[Insert_Gnome_Here]

I've got happy little poults running around in .44.07 (till the goblins retaliated, that is).

[Thorfinn]

Working now. Last two of the second set were fertile, and 10/10 of the third laying. Must have been just bad luck. The string of 22 consecutive non-fertiles had me going, though.

[PatrikLundell]

I don't understand why you'd want to separate males and females, unless you want to avoid fertilization.

[Pvt. Pirate]

I don't understand why you'd want to separate males and females, unless you want to avoid fertilization.

exactly this. i always just make a large room 9x9 and place nestboxes, then make the whole room a pasture and put all egglayers in there.

[Wombation]

Animals and Dwarfs no longer "breed by spores". They need to at least at some point be situated adjacent to each other in order to breed.

[Pvt. Pirate]

Animals and Dwarfs no longer "breed by spores". They need to at least at some point be situated adjacent to each other in order to breed.

are the chances for breeding higher if they are happier?

[PatrikLundell]

Animals and Dwarfs no longer "breed by spores". They need to at least at some point be situated adjacent to each other in order to breed.

are the chances for breeding higher if they are happier?

There is no indication that happiness factors into it. Adjacent (or same tile) and not otherwise occupied (by e.g. eating/drinking/sleeping/socializing...). Some citizens can be a bit slow which may be due to personality traits or just chance.
Animals are said to be able to breed with a caged male adjacent to a free ranging or chained female (I've never tried that, though, so that's second hand info).

[Pvt. Pirate]

thanks. so just having a nice meeting hall and rooms but also a free dormitory should work. argh i'll look in that breeding thread instead of derailing yours...

[Thorfinn]

My bad. I meant a 4x6 meeting area within the room, not a 4x6 pasture. I like to keep the males out of the nestbox area to make it a little easier to figure out when I need to build more.

i always just make a large room 9x9 and place nestboxes, then make the whole room a pasture and put all egglayers in there.

I guess I should have checked for myself. I didn't see any mention of changes to egg-layers in the changelog, so I assumed autonestbox was still widely used. That would simplify things quite a lot. Though it's not that hard with macros, just tedious.

[wierd]

Animals can be gay.

Reflect on this.

[Lord Shiteblast]

What are you trying to do exactly? If you want the males to fertilise then why not just assign them and the females to one big pasture then when you get your poultsplosion just unassign the males or butcher them.

[Thorfinn]

I don't remember what problem autonestbox was intended to solve. Something that was happening with assigning nest boxes a few years back, but maybe the game itself has fixed that. Or it might have been releasing the nest boxes. I don't know. Autonestbox was just part and parcel of playing a game. I take it that is no longer the case?

For all I know, double-slitting aquifers is no longer necessary, either...