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Author Topic: Exodus from Vlanlados  (Read 27117 times)

TricMagic

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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2018, 10:20:49 am »

Cows can go then, but I am worried about not having any milk.



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andrea

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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2018, 10:21:29 am »

what problems does not having animal milk bring?

TricMagic

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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2018, 10:23:53 am »

Calcium deficiency: A low blood level of calcium (hypocalcemia), which can make the nervous system highly irritable, causing spasms of the hands and feet (tetany), muscle cramps, abdominal cramps, overly active reflexes, and so on.

Quick google has this to say. There's probably more to it than this, but it is an idea of the problem therein.
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andrea

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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2018, 10:28:41 am »

Sardines have calcium, beans have calcium, many things can get calcium without being milk.

edit: worst comes to worst, we can grind some bones in our meals.

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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2018, 10:31:00 am »

Just making sure, bones it is.

Also, bullets are expendable, hunting gear(Traps) can be reused.
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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2018, 10:33:36 am »

yes, I wouldn't drop hunting gear unless absolutely unavoidable

Cargo drop plan A
-Drop 2 cows (2 tons)
-Drop 20 goats (1 ton)
-2000 rations (2 tons)
-10 tons of coal

The reason behind dropping food before coal is that when we arrive there, it will be easier to find fish and prey than a coal vein we can exploit, and we will need coal to run all the machinery and keep ourselves warm.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2018, 10:50:31 am by andrea »
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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2018, 11:08:36 am »

I mean eating the cows and goats fresh is probably better idea than just dropping them off whole, especially since the ship isin't OH MY GOD SINKING RIGHT NOW. The cows will be shat out in few days tops.
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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2018, 11:12:42 am »

Cargo drop plan A
-Drop 2 cows (2 tons)
-Drop 20 goats (1 ton)
-2000 rations (2 tons)
-10 tons of coal

The reason behind dropping food before coal is that when we arrive there, it will be easier to find fish and prey than a coal vein we can exploit, and we will need coal to run all the machinery and keep ourselves warm.
+1. Makes sense to me.
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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2018, 01:13:42 pm »


Cargo drop plan B
-Eat 2 cows (2 tons)
-Eat 20 goats (1 ton)
-2000 rations (2 tons)
-10 tons of coal


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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2018, 01:16:10 pm »

OK, we need to keep ahold of rations if we want to live. I don't know what you guys plan to hunt, but there's not really a lot of stuff to hunt in Antarctica. I mean, maybe penguins and lemmings. Traps are probably useless, better to bring rifles instead, many of the things we'll end up hunting can't really run away. Livestock....don't even get me started on why livestock are a terrible idea. Nine months of the year you have to feed them on stored food. Oh, and it takes 10 pounds of plant matter per pound of livestock meat. Which is not an efficient process, obviously. So livestock need to go, preferably to feed a thousand people. They shouldn't last more than a day like that.
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andrea

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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2018, 01:21:51 pm »


Cargo drop plan B
-Eat 2 cows (2 tons)
-Eat 20 goats (1 ton)
-2000 rations (2 tons)
-10 tons of coal



I would edit it as eat/drop on the livestock and rations, since we don't know how much food we get by butchering (I think).

As for why we have livestock, madman, the reason is simple: Piratejoe picked the loadout. And yes, it is a terrible idea, hence why it is the first thing we want to dump.

Doubloon-Seven

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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2018, 01:29:28 pm »

Nutrition, though. You can't milk a chicken, and while I'm on board with getting rid of the cows, we should keep a few goats as a source of milk. That being said, however, does anyone know where in Antarctica the ship is going? Because if there isn't anything to eat then throw the goats over too, I guess.
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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2018, 01:32:28 pm »

People survived for millennia on nothing but subsistence farming, and we'll be better off through hunting a few Antarctic animals. However, bringing our own is insanely inefficient.
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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2018, 01:37:37 pm »

...fair enough. Also, could we perhaps cut off some superfluous parts of the ship? Internal walls, scrap, rusted junk.
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Re: Exodus from Vlanlados
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2018, 02:43:16 pm »

Fun fact: 15 tons roughly equals 200 starving passengers >.>

Seriously, though, let's butcher the animals for leather first.  I don't know how much of the ship we can scrap, but seeing as how metal and coal and guns and bullets are less renewable than animals, we should focus on dumping what we can later replace or renew.
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