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Author Topic: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol  (Read 17570 times)

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #120 on: November 06, 2018, 10:35:05 pm »

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Cefyll | (3): Kashyyk, D7, Jerick
Clogfeni | (2):AseaHeru, Doomblade
No design this turn | ():

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Medium-Caliber Impact-Fuse Shell (1): D7
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #121 on: November 06, 2018, 11:21:01 pm »


Quote from: Vote Blockage
Cefyll | (3): Kashyyk, D7, Jerick
Clogfeni | (2):AseaHeru, Doomblade
No design this turn | ():

Requisition:
Medium-Caliber Impact-Fuse Shell (1): D7
Medium-Caliber mortar shells(i.e., 60 to 80mm shells) | (1):Aseaheru
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #122 on: November 07, 2018, 02:04:06 am »

Quote from: Vote Blockage
Cefyll | (3): Kashyyk, D7, Jerick
Clogfeni | (2):AseaHeru, Doomblade
No design this turn | ():

Requisition:
Medium-Caliber Impact-Fuse Shell (1): D7
Medium-Caliber mortar shells(i.e., 60 to 80mm shells) | (2):Aseaheru, Kashyyk

I'd actually prefer a small-calibre she'll, but not enough to cause another hung vote.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #123 on: November 09, 2018, 03:27:34 am »

Pren Gwyn Design Phase, Late Autumn 1915
AGC-AMD AC15 "Cefyll"
A two-seater geodetic-frame biplane in standard puller configuration, powered by a Rhodri 10-160 D15 (a general improvement on the Saethydd's engine). The main developments this plane has is a pair of floor-mounted ground-attack AGAA AC15 machine guns fitted at a 45 degree angle with a simple periscope, allowing the gunner to fire on ground targets whilst the plane flies level. It also comes with a partial steel frame, taking the form of a box, containing the engine, pilot and gunner. The steel itself is 0.2 inches thick and is a structural part of the plane itself. A third AGAA AC15 machine gun on a ring mount allows the gunner to fend off enemy fighters. Finally, about 200lb of additional payload is to be accounted for, be it a radio, or some form of as-yet-undesigned explosive weapon. Engineers have discussed ideas such as dropping artillery shells, or even firing rockets!

Time: 3 | Progress: 4 | Expense: 5

The work on the Cefyll is expected to be fairly cheap, as the basics of what we are doing is set already into place, and the work starts at a decent speed. Though, it is expected that a bit more time will be taken working on the craft, specifically giving it the ability to carry all the weight desired for the craft with the addition of its basic armament.

AGC-AMD AC15 "Cefyll" | 4/19 progress | 2 PP per die | Rushed 0 times | 2 PP invested


Effectiveness: 6 | Cost: 5 | Bugs: 2

Despite the challenges the design faces, work goes fairly swiftly and quite well, with a few modifications going on the design to make it better both in combat and otherwise. From the engine cowl to the tail is more or less a straight line in the body of the aircraft, done specifically so the floor mounted machine guns have better clearance and could be mounted at a higher level to make it easier for the gunner to use them and additionally are amiable being on a swivel. The gunner can switch from these two guns fairly quickly thanks to their positioning and it should help make the aircraft a fairly dangerous target for enemy aircraft to deal with.

The aircraft also, is a puller rather than a pusher unlike our last aircraft and has a new engine, or rather a modified old engine made to be a bit better. Unfortunately, the work on the engine hasn't gone too well, with it occasionally and rather inconveniently cutting out for a varying amount of time, sometimes not turning back on unless the pilot crawls over and spins the propeller, which needless to say is a kinda bad thing. Speaking of, the aircraft is actually slightly faster than the Saethydd, though certainly not by too much and tests show it should be able to take off with 200 lbs given a long enough runway, though the aircraft struggles when loaded to that degree. Also, its a bit more expensive than the Saethydd, mostly due to the extra gun and the bit of steel used in the body, but its not that much more expensive.



Army Requisition: Medium-Caliber mortar shells(i.e., 60 to 80mm shells) The army has very few shells actually laying around, other than ones that are better used as mines than in actual guns. However, considering your help with the parts of the army that actually uses such ammunition, you are able to get access to a shell that is being replaced for a more powerful version, though isn't fully phased out yet. The shell in question is the Deg punt Tri modfedd mortar shell which is a 76mm shell, well, technically its a 76.2 mm shell. Regardless, its ten pounds and is a fairly simple and reliable explosive that is good for dealing with soldiers. Though, if you are holding one, it is advised not to drop it for fairly obvious reasons.

Deg punt Tri modfedd mortar shell A 76.2mm or 3 inch shell that is 10 pounds...It doesn't have that much power for obvious reasons, but it works well enough. Costs 1 PP



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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #124 on: November 09, 2018, 04:35:33 pm »

So, revision suggestions:

{1}Convert Cefyll to use Rhodri 10-140 D15
{2}Improve reliability of Rhodri 10-160 D15
{3}Develop, and install, holders and release mechanisms for up to 5DpTm shells to be mounted on Saethydds or Cefylls.
{4}Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saethydds (Mod 0*)
{5}Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saeths (Mod 2B*)
{6}Develop mount and (optional)telescopic lenses for Llygad Hir, for mounting in aircraft(downwards) or balloons(horizontally).

{A} Save one dice for next turn(1 revision)
{B} Save two die for next turn(no revisions)
{C} Save no die for next turn(2 revisions)
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #125 on: November 09, 2018, 04:40:51 pm »

Iirc, planes were given pneumatic engine starters at some point. Even a manual mechanism would be better than the current "climb-out-of-the-cockpit-midflight" approach.

I wouldn't be a fan of reverting to the 140hp engine, I'd much prefer to work on improving our new one, allowing us to safely roll it out to the Saeth(ydd)s.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #126 on: November 09, 2018, 04:44:16 pm »

GAB15 Ysbwriel

What is a bomb but a shell with wings? Quite a bit, actually. While in conversion from shell to the bomb, the design experiences a few significant changes. First, yes, are the fins -- three of them, in a trefoil -- but even on the exterior is another addition. A sounding rod, sticking out a foot or so from the nose of the altered mortal shell. On the inside, the launching cordite and primer are removed, replaced with more explosive, and in between the walls and the payload is a jacket filled with shrapnel. The former shell, now a bomb.

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GAB15 Ysbwriel (1): D7

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #127 on: November 10, 2018, 04:15:57 am »

Thanks fer missing the first six revisions in the voteblock Dub.

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Revisions:
Convert Cefyll to use Rhodri 10-140 D15 | (0):
Improve reliability of Rhodri 10-160 D15 | (0):
Develop, and install, holders and release mechanisms for up to 5DpTm shells to be mounted on Saethydds or Cefylls. | (1): AseaHeru
Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saethydds (Mod 0*) | (0):
Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saeths (Mod 2B*) | (0):
Develop mount and (optional)telescopic lenses for Llygad Hir, for mounting in aircraft(downwards) or balloons(horizontally). | (1): AseaHeru
GAB15 Ysbwriel | (1): D7

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1 (2): D7, AseaHeru
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #128 on: November 10, 2018, 09:36:11 am »

If a plane engine stalls for some reason, currently the only way to restart it is by flying straight down and hoping the windmill affect restarts it, or by climbing out of the cockpit and spinning the blades manually.  This I bring you:

In-flight Engine Restarter
A small pneumatic mechanism, the engine restarter can quickly dump a lot of angular momentum into the propeller blades, which fouls be enough to restart the engine. A footpump is included so it can be repressurised in flight.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #129 on: November 11, 2018, 03:51:26 pm »


Quote from: Votes
Revisions:
Convert Cefyll to use Rhodri 10-140 D15 | (0):
Improve reliability of Rhodri 10-160 D15 | (0):
Develop, and install, holders and release mechanisms for up to 5DpTm shells to be mounted on Saethydds or Cefylls. | (2): AseaHeru, Kashyyk
Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saethydds (Mod 0*) | (0):
Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saeths (Mod 2B*) | (0):
Develop mount and (optional)telescopic lenses for Llygad Hir, for mounting in aircraft(downwards) or balloons(horizontally). | (1): AseaHeru
GAB15 Ysbwriel | (1): D7
In-flight Engine Restarter | (1): Kashyyk

# of Revisions:
2 (1): Kashyyk
1 (2): D7, AseaHeru
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #130 on: November 11, 2018, 05:39:26 pm »

Quote from: Votes
Revisions:
Convert Cefyll to use Rhodri 10-140 D15 | (0):
Improve reliability of Rhodri 10-160 D15 | (0):
Develop, and install, holders and release mechanisms for up to 5DpTm shells to be mounted on Saethydds or Cefylls. | (3): AseaHeru, Kashyyk, Doomblade
Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saethydds (Mod 0*) | (0):
Install the Rhodri 10-160 D15 in Saeths (Mod 2B*) | (0):
Develop mount and (optional)telescopic lenses for Llygad Hir, for mounting in aircraft(downwards) or balloons(horizontally). | (1): AseaHeru
GAB15 Ysbwriel | (1): D7
In-flight Engine Restarter | (1): Kashyyk

# of Revisions:
2 (1): Kashyyk
1 (3): D7, AseaHeru, Doomblade
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2018, 11:15:17 pm »

Pren Gwyn Revision Phase, Late Autumn 1915
Develop, and install, holders and release mechanisms for up to 5DpTm shells to be mounted on Saethydds or Cefylls.
Efficacy: 5

The engineers are a bit upset that there wasn't much detail in the project but it was quite simple to do at the very least. They have developed a simple clamp system that can be set up in multiple different configurations for carry and uses a lever added to the cockpit to drop them. Be it holding five DpTm sized shells, or one particularly large shell. The work is fairly easy, which meant they had the extra time to make the thing adjustable, but the things are fairly cheap and a number of them can be screwed onto any aircraft fairly easily, and the engineers just call it the Fasged Addasiad. They advise however, that next time, we specify that it comes with the design for an aircraft... Costs 1 PP for two.



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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #132 on: November 13, 2018, 02:06:25 pm »

 Well, was hoping fer some extra discussion...

-edit- Removed for lack of funds to buy bombs. Why must we buy all the bombs? Why do they cost somuch?  -edit-

Any opposition to the plan? if not, I think the black woods want things going by now.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #133 on: November 13, 2018, 02:32:18 pm »

Can I be pilot Aigre Arthfael, warrior of the air!
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #134 on: November 14, 2018, 03:14:20 am »

I'm back on my phone now, so I'm not gonna hint through the various locations yet (not 3ven sure where an easy reach map is right now). Nut how does this sound for Production?

- Buy one pair of Faaged Addasaid bomb racks, fit them to Ydfran Adran and Esgob Adran. Also buy a pair of Deg Punt mortar shells and give them to the same.  (3PP)
- Buy a Saethydd squadron, named Castell Adran (5PP)
- Buy a Saeth mod 2B squadron, named Ysbďwr Adran (4PP)
-Buy 2 Llygad Hid Cameras, give one to each Seath squadron (2PP)

That comfortably spends all 14PP.  I'd send a spotter and a bomber squadron together to find targets and them destroy them, whilst one of the other Saethydds protect them.  Thoughts?
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