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Author Topic: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!  (Read 19179 times)

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Re: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2018, 10:11:44 am »

Emilio Malmström talks towards members o PRPoP as he believes they share a similar aproach to the PPPP.

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Re: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2018, 10:14:35 am »

Struvan Beliot has released a public statement asking the PfPA, PNP, and PRPoP to stand with them against the capitalist party smears.
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« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2018, 10:22:44 am »

Goelbel Himler, the PR man for the PNP, has announced that the PNP support the smear campaign logical fallacies that the Capitalist party are pointing out against the "people's" party. As the Capitalist party is more closely related to the National party than the "people's" party. Hail Kozel!
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Re: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!
« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2018, 10:34:39 am »

Martyn Powell would request people stop calling it a 'smear campaign' as its just pointing out the undesirable and noticeably worrying parts of the PPPP's ideology that the 'peoples' party tends to gloss over or ignore.
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Re: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!
« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2018, 11:05:57 am »

I advise the PPPP comrades to not indulge in the low activities of smear campaigning as the proletariate has morals and justice on their side.

The workers will prevail and eventually seize the means of production.
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Re: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!
« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2018, 11:08:05 am »

The PfPA keeps above all this nonsense, and instead gains power.
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« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2018, 12:22:47 pm »

Reluctantly, the PPPP instructs its loyal party members to preserve power in the face of Capitalist attacks.

Zelad Zeladvic angrily denounces those who abuse their power to oppress others; points out once again the need to secure and preserve our natural freedoms from those who think that ownership of factories entitles them to ownership of laborers. It is our mission – nay our duty! – to empower ALL People against those corrupt FEW who would make of themselves Robber Kings in replacement of the vile aristocracy so recently abolished. We have already accomplished our revolution! The Pankratinian People's Power Party does not, and will never, seek to replace our great New republic; what false wolves would throw us back into slavery?! Remember the dastardly words of Himler and ask yourselves: How can any Nation be strong when its People are held in chains! Beware for the Capitalists already believe that their factories entitle them to your bodies and souls as well!
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« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2018, 04:39:26 pm »

The PNP attempts to Gain power, not really being concerned about it's coalition partner.
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« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2018, 05:35:49 pm »

The PNP attempts to Gain power, not really being concerned about it's coalition partner.
Goelbel Himler, the PR man for the PNP, has retracted his previous statement.
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Re: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!
« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2018, 05:52:13 pm »

Martyn Powell would state that the idea all factory and business owners see workers as slaves or think that their souls belong to them is frankly ridiculous and if any of them did they probably would run into issues with labor rights, in addition workers who are happy and payed well will work harder so those kinds of people would probably fail. He also points out the PPPP didn't even allow the PCP to come to their debate while they did another and mentions that unlike what the PPPP claims, everything that the PCP is saying is actually in the manifesto of the PPPP's ideology. He also makes the point that if they had already accomplished their revolution, their would only be the PPPP and no other party and all business would be nationalized. Finally he finishes off with by saying that if one pretends what the PPPP says is true and for a moment fully believes that workers are slaves to their employer, wouldn't that mean the revolution they call for would result in workers being slaves to the state?
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« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2018, 06:12:56 pm »

What "manifesto"??

The PPPP is doing exactly what we claim to be doing. Why are the Capitalists so keen to falsely attribute so-called revolutions to us, unless they are afraid that their workers are unhappy despite their spluttering? We harbor no ill will toward any business owner or entrepreneur, except those who think that wealth and the pursuit of wealth are the measure of a person's nobility. We are working diligently in the streets and in the Parliament to ensure that precisely those workers' rights of which Powell speaks are fully realized. No one at the PPPP is making slaves of anybody: we advocate a true government of our People, by our People, and for our People.

If the PCP is so upset about being unable to debate, why have they resorted to lies and smears instead of holding their own event?
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Re: Res Publica - Political Battlefields of Republic of Pankratinia!
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2018, 08:23:59 am »

1: PANKRATINIA NATIONAL PARTY (PNP)

PNP attempts to gain Power! (-2 Power)

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4+1 = 5-4 = 1

PNP gains 1 Power!

2. PANKRATINIA CAPITALIST PARTY (PCP)

PCP launches a Smear Campaign against PPPP! (-5 Power)

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4+1, 4+1

PPPP: -4 Power (blocked!), -4 Popularity!

3. PANKRATINIAN PEOPLE'S POWER PARTY (PPPP)

PPPP decides to Preserve Power! (-1 Power)

4. PARTY FOR PANKRATINIAN ADVANCEMENT (PfPA)

PfPA attempts to gain Power! (-2 Power)

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12 = 12-4 = 8

PfPA: +8 Power!

5. PROGRESSIVE RATIONAL PARTY OF PANKRATINIA (PRPoP)

PRPoP attempts to gain Popularity! (-2 Power)

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12 = 12-5 = 7

PRPoP: +7 Popularity!

1901 AD, Summer

Topics of Interest amongst Pankratinian Citizenry: Culture&Arts, National Traditions and Trading Power.

PfPA is the forefront for people's worries, which greatly increases their popularity amongst the citizenry.

PfPA: +2 Popularity

Infighting and disagreements in several ministries governed by PNP party members prompt the President of Pankratinia to request resignations of few key officials. PNP power drops and their supporters question the validity of supporting them any further.

PNP: -4 Power, -4 Popularity.

List of Parties: Minority Government (PNP + PCP): +1 to rolls of each

1: PANKRATINIA NATIONAL PARTY (PNP)
Party Details: Pankratinia National Party, Viktor Kozel (Taricus)
Topics of Interest: Military Strength, National Traditions, National Security
Party Members: Goelbel Himler (MonkeyMarkMario), Syldav Bordur (The_Two_Eternities)
Created: 1900 AD.

Starting Popularity: 31
Starting Power: 9
Current Popularity: 39
Current Power: 3

2. PANKRATINIA CAPITALIST PARTY (PCP)
Party Details: Pankratinia Capitalist Party, Martyn Powell (Piratejoe)
Topics of Interest: Local Economy, Industrial Growth, Trading Power.
Party Members: none
Created: 1900 AD.

Starting Popularity: 29
Starting Power: 5
Current Popularity: 31
Current Power: 6

3. PANKRATINIAN PEOPLE'S POWER PARTY (PPPP)
Party Details: Pankratinian People's Power Party, Zelad Zeladvic (mightymushroom)
Topics of interest: Local Economy, Sciences & Technologies, National Education
Party Members: Struvan Beliot (Doomblade187), Emilio Malmström (Detoxicated)
Created: 1900 AD.

Starting Popularity: 20
Starting Power: 5
Current Popularity: 34
Current Power: 5

4. PARTY FOR PANKRATINIAN ADVANCEMENT (PfPA)
Party Details: Party for Pankratinian Advancement, Armin Kögland (Maximum Spin)
Topics of interest: Trading Power, Culture&Arts, National Traditions
Party Members: none
Created: 1900 AD.

Starting Popularity: 29
Starting Power: 5
Current Popularity: 48
Current Power: 9

5. PROGRESSIVE RATIONAL PARTY OF PANKRATINIA (PRPoP)
Party Details: Progressive Rational Party of Pankratinia, led by Barron Neville (Iridium64)
Topics of Interest: Science and Technologies, Industrial Growth, Internal Stability
Party Members: none
Created: Winter, 1900 AD.

Starting Popularity: 18
Starting Power: 5
Current Popularity: 28
Current Power: 5
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« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2018, 11:12:52 am »

Smear campaign: PNP

"The Nationalist Party want nothing more than to see Pankratinia turn inward and stagnate on the global stage! In a world where Pankratinia has no serious military enemies to speak of, they want to spend your tax dollars on guns and boats instead of Pankratinian cultural advancement! The Nationalist Party are simply not equipped to deal with the realities of governing a modern nation!"
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« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2018, 11:59:29 am »

PPPP attempts to gain power. In the capital, Malmström and Beliot host "Party Parties" for fellow parliamentarians, making friends and dealing in Favors, while Veladvic largely keeps to his home district Recruiting factory workers to the Glorious Cause.

While saying nothing outright against the PfPA or its smears serious concerns, in very private discussions a few local party chiefs make subtle allusions to the potential for rapprochement between the PPPP's future-heavy agenda and the Nationalist regard for Tradition. Whether there is any real movement by the leadership or this is only a hasty butt-covering pacifying gesture for moderates in response to the PCP's accusation of revolutionary intent is unclear at this time.
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« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2018, 01:04:13 pm »

The PNP Attempt to gain Power and warns that if the PfPA tries to continue it's smear campaign it won't relent in retaliation.
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