-Your opinion that you are above me. Saying you won't stoop to someone's level suggests you are superior than them, and that superiority is completely unfounded if you stoop to the action you said you wouldn't stoop to in the exact same sentence. Indeed, saying this after saying you won't say anything about a person is also hypocritical.
-Your lack of explained points. The majority of your side of the argument is filled with you simply saying things without explaining them, which makes it difficult for me to make a rational argument against you due to a lack of explanation. This immediately proved troublesome when your first post did not make it seem like you wanted to kill me and I then made my counter-argument with the belief that you were simply discussing an altered version of the peace treaty. Of course, this is just the majority and some points, like why you want ARA, are at least explained and obvious. It would be a pretty safe place if I was either allied with you or dead.
-Your faulty logic. My argument against ARA is here too. You claim that ARA is important because it would give you a secure supply center, but if you were to let me have it you could then, for example, have me help you in getting the supply centers of Luathbas, which would give you three supply centers that you could then use to continue attacking other lords. In total, you would also have 7 supply centers by that point and I would have 5. Combined with your four supply centers secured by having those centers, you would then be in a good position to attack the rest of the lords in that area. Not only that, you say you decided to not join with me purely based on my behaviour. On top of this, instead of bringing up the awfulness of CHU, you instead completely avoided it. I had planned on you bringing up demand of CHU, since I though that was the first thing you'd bring up, so I could then remove that from the deal and give the illusion of you getting a better deal than you otherwise would of. However, as I've already said, this trick failed because you completely avoided it. Maybe this would of worked in your favour if you still wanted to accept the deal or if you say through it and then used that leverage to propose your own deal or got someone else to help kill me, but you decided to avoid discussing it completely and I've had to point it out myself.
-Your ignorance. I don't mean this as an insult, I mean the fact that you've ignored a large portion of my points in favour of criticizing my attitude and deal. You also mostly point out the instances where I obviously got things incorrect from the perspective of someone reading the posts twice, like where I do think I made a mistake and genuinely take full blame for misunderstanding something, like the difference between panning ahead and having goals. However this does not give you an excuse to simply ignore the majority of the points arrayed against you. If you want to win an argument, you need to face every point and either admit defeat to a point or explain why you disagree with a point made against you. If you only make points against selective parts of my argument, I simply can't make a proper argument against you due to having so many points still waiting to be answered by you and me not wanting to just repeat myself constantly. The worst example of this has to be how you reacted to the final paragraph in my last post.
Please don't take this the wrong way by the way. I've had too many games, both forum and virtual, where people have taken it too far and gotten pissed at someone else for disagreeing with them or for eliminating them, and I'm sorry but your replies to my offer make you seem like that sort of person to me.
That's quite a bit of an extrapolation, and a pretty unfounded one.
I won't say anything to your character, as I won't stoop to your level, but your deal and your attitude is quite awful. ... It's your behavior that made me decide that it's better off fighting you
I specifically put that there to voice my worry that you might start arguing in the very way replied to that post. You replied to a post where I was worried about you arguing in one way by arguing in that very same way. I specifically said "Please don't take this the wrong way," in an attempt to make sure you didn't misunderstand that as me insulting you. Yet you ignored that and, as far as I can tell, took it as me using an unfounded insult against you, thus immediately proving my point. Again, I'm sorry if you really believe that I'm insulting you, and I don't really know what else to say to you except that I'm not, but from what I can tell so far I know you won't believe that.
And that's about it. I hope you don't take this the wrong way and, if you don't, I look forward to your response.
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