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Steam Official Announcement Thread (50.11 Edition!)
« on: June 14, 2019, 09:34:20 pm »

Hello, folks!

This is a repeater post for the Steam Community/Kitfox Email info released every other Thursday. It has lots of great interesting stuff in it, but it's probably not the best place to actually discuss it. You can, of course, but this isn't an official thread you should expect the developers or artists to read or even be aware of, and isn't intended to distract from official threads.

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[Historical first post]

There's an official Steam announcement tonight, that some folks (like me.) who don't have Steam always open might have missed. Mostly old news, but some new things, like the new music is done, apparently.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/975370/announcements/detail/1607137032975591160

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Development Progress: Plots and Villains
Jun 13 @ 2:10pm - kiwihotaru   
Hi! This is Tarn Adams, a.k.a. Toady One.

Ha ha, yes, we have a Steam News section! We thought we'd start posting here when I was able to work on the graphics code in earnest (I'm completing the half-finished villain features before that begins), but we've been reminded that a lot of people don't see our regular development logs over at Bay 12, and additionally, the artists have been hard at work and we can certainly start sharing what they are creating before the coding begins.

To start, I'll just use this opening post to make sure everybody is broadly on the same page with the odd creature that is Dwarf Fortress development.

Back in July of last year, before there was a publishing contract or much thought of one, we finished our last major release cycle, and started up on the next version for what we now call Dwarf Fortress Classic. Basically, the fortresses that you play in the game will be subject to devious plots of NPCs in the world well beyond the normal sieges that have been in the game since the beginning.

We thought this would take several months, though it's not that unusual that we're rolling up on almost a year now. And of course, something unusual happened in the meantime! We're have a Steam page now, and the work toward a Steam release has begun. The new music and sounds are complete, thanks to Dabu! Meanwhile, Mike and Patrick are producing lots of great sprites for the game. We'll have more on the art progress to date in a future news post.

For now, I'll just try to join the stream of dev logs, what we've been doing for the last months, up into the News section here. Due to the layered nature of the game, where a world history leads to a dynamic in-play world where you control either a fort or a single character, new features are generally added in the following fashion:

    1: the broad contours of the feature are added to the world map+history generator. For this release, that means hundreds of plots unfolding over decades or longer, operating all over the map simultaneously, but without a lot of actual moving creatures. Most of the logistical details are abstracted away.
    2: make it work in play, in the detailed ongoing world simulation, away from the player. The logistics are handled here. Most of the data and code can be transferred over from world generation, but we often need extra information and mechanics. For instance, a villainous plot that used to rely on a plotter contacting a saboteur with an intermediary, easily and abstractly, now has to actually see more than one person moving over the map, arriving to meet the person they want to meet in a defined location, and advancing the plot step by step (where many steps didn't even exist before.)
    3: handle it in Adventurer Mode, the RPG side of the game, which is quite underdeveloped compared to the main Fortress Mode, but it has the advantage of being very granular. If something is wrong with a feature, it's much easier to spot it if you are walking around inside of it, interacting with each detail. For villains, this means two things - adventurers that can be villains, and adventurers that can investigate villains.
    4: make the new feature work in Fortress Mode. Having worked with the feature for some time by this point in detail, we can focus on the player experience and getting the new mechanics hooked up in an interesting fashion that interacts with other player-facing pieces of the game. With the villain release, for example, this includes the existing fortress justice system, and the existing ability to send dwarves out on missions.

So where are we in this process, and when can we get started on the Steam features and graphics coding (while the artists continue working)?

We're in the middle of step two. The hard foundational part, world generation, is complete. The villainous plots are done in history, all of their main pieces work, and they can be quite entertaining! Assassination, sabotage, embezzlement, theft, coups, corruption, bribery, counter-intelligence and surveillance, with mercenaries, merchant companies, guilds, religions, and new relationships thrown in to give the plotters and their adversaries more connections and tools to work with.

I've now moved on and completed the initial basic update of the assassination plot in play, which involved adding the logistical mechanics all of the other plots will also use. You can read an in-depth description of our first complete plot pulled off in play after world generation was complete over on the Bay 12 blog[www.bay12games.com], featuring a dwarven necromancer named Ustuth, the dwarf Count Limul Treatyvessels, and Jonu the human assassin.

It's important to note that the villain release I'm talking about here will be the classic, free version (without graphics, so, not yet the Steam release) -- though of course it will then be included in the Steam release. After the villains release is complete, we'll be able to start in on the code for the graphical version, which of course will have all the villain features along with everything else.

I'm sorry that the development plans are a bit convoluted here, with this unusual initial step to complete. The DF boat has been sailing along and gaining tonnage for many, many years now, and turning it can be quite a process, but we will arrive at our destination, as we have many times before. Never anywhere this shiny, though, he he he. It is good to be seeing the pixel cats and alpacas.

We'll be keeping everybody updated regularly here on Steam News from now on, as well as continuing the Bay 12 development logs as usual.

- Tarn
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Another Official Steam Announcement
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2019, 01:15:46 pm »

Here's another one.


https://steamcommunity.com/games/975370/announcements/detail/1610515908963717519

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Hiring Assassins is Hard Work
Jun 27 @ 12:03pm - kiwihotaru   
Hello!

As we noted in the last news post, I'm finishing up the villain work that was in progress before we move on to getting the Steam release together, and this work had just hit the 'post world generation' phase, where we take our foundational but abstract data and code that was used to make the world's history and get it into a form that can be used in player fortresses and in Dwarf Fortress's RPG mode. In the previous post, I'd just finished a basic assassination plot.

The next step was to get the villain's lieutenants and handlers to work with assassins. In our existing plots from DF history generation, the villains don't always contact the assassin directly, in order to better conceal their identities. This adds some complications once you get into play, because the villain needs to contact the handler, and then the handler needs to hire the assassin, and each of these pairs need to meet in some location, which isn't always simple since the desired assassin (or the handler) might be doing something else, making an immediate meeting impossible. There are various sorts of possible missed connections, some unavoidable, but the basic two-step plots are working now.

However, sometimes a villain or handler is just too important to go on a lengthy secret trip (they are a ruler, say). To solve this problem, I've allowed sufficiently important people to send messages more abstractly. An important villain might send a message to a handler, who then travels physically to hire an assassin, or a villain might physically travel to speak to a highly-placed corrupt official, who then sends word to an assassin via message. The messages still take time to travel, and they'll be a form of evidence when we get to the investigation process, where you as a fortress mode player or adventurer are trying to unravel whatever plot you've encountered.

But in most situations, there will be people moving around, going about villainous business, and these will be the same people that arrive at your tavern in fort mode, looking to meet a conspirator or otherwise cause trouble for you.

Some supporting features from history generation have also needed to make the transition to play. For instance, as I mentioned last time, we added some religious information (on top of mercenaries, merchant companies, etc.) in order to give the villains more connections for their plots, and I spent some time transferring that into a form that can be used once play starts. Each culture now tracks religious demographics and certain historical data (such as persecution and famous sermons) in a way that the in-play civilians can see. These include dwarves immigrating to your fortress, and the people you meet as adventurer.

Additionally, I began updating the other (non-assassination) plots - there's still a bit to do there, right where the action of the plot happens (whether it's sabotage or a theft), but they mostly use the same code, because concepts like 'handlers' work the same regardless of the plot.

- Tarn

(P.S. a note from Kitfox Games: talk about this and other DF lore on the official, friendly Discord[discord.gg]! This past week we've had great discussions of hatching forbidden eggs, coffin advantages, and disarming prisoners...)
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 02:51:18 pm »

https://steamcommunity.com/games/975370/announcements/detail/1610517267347369896

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Petting Animals is Important (and Maybe Deadly)
Jul 11 @ 12:13pm - manavee   
Hi!

Way back in July of last year, I added the ability to add party members and pets to character creation in the Adventurer Mode of Dwarf Fortress (which is the RPG part, rather than the fort management sim.) Back then, I left some bits unfinished, and for last week and next week, I'll be cleaning that up so that I can get started on adventurer villainy and investigations.

Last year, we'd already completed the ability to start with named pets, the ability to lead them around and pack items on them (if they are an appropriate animal like a mule or horse, rather than, say, a cavy. There are a score of options, and the elves have more than a hundred), and the basic ability to ride mounts. Relative mount velocity impacts weapon damage. However, I didn't handle the party aspect of riding and some other issues.

That's done now! You can change the speed of your mount. If it's something normal like a horse, it has traditional gaits like gallop, canter, and trot. Your party members will mount when you mount, and dismount when you dismount, if they have their own mounts and you aren't in the heat of combat, and they'll try to follow you around and adjust their speeds as best they can.

Somebody asked a long time ago about undead mounts, and I didn't have an answer. But after a bit of work, necromancer adventurers can ride any mountable undead creature that they raise.

Also, importantly, after this update is finished you'll be able to pet animals. They don't have to be friendly (or not undead) for you to try, but assuming that risk is up to you.

Next up, I'll be handling tactical party combat. That is, the ability to indirectly command or directly control the multiple characters you can start with now, as well as giving commands to others you recruit later. Then we'll be to the main matter of adventurer interactions with villains, then to fort mode.

- Tarn

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Kitfox's Note

There's no way we can talk about animals without letting you see what they might look like, so here's a small peek at some of the sprites that Meph and Mayday have been working on. Nothing is set in stone, but it's nice to see!

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/clans/34693670/b25f5fcd7bb94d17ffecc1cfe0e0736871625570.png

They are small but powerful. :') Also, we do have a Dwarf Fortress newsletter sign up https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=http://eepurl.com/dB4bFv for these updates in ~email format~ if that tickles your fancy. But otherwise, see you around!

- Victoria
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 04:22:23 pm »

Huh, I guess the thing third from the right is a beakdog?  Interesting to see it visualized like that for the first time.

Petting animals is such a small thing too, but I really like that it was added anyway.
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 06:41:11 am »

Should be interesting IMO to see how the various cavern critters are visualized, considering just how bizarre some of them are.
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 08:04:02 am »

Should be interesting IMO to see how the various cavern critters are visualized, considering just how bizarre some of them are.
This is the thread for those interested in the graphical development: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173474.0.
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 08:56:25 am »

Right, sorry. Already knew that thread existed. :P
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2019, 04:51:11 pm »

It would seem Toady's updating the Steam devlog on the same schedule he uses for the Bay12 devlog. Very convenient.

I find Toady's efforts to explain the old features as the explains the new entertaining. It's interesting to see the cautions he takes when approaching the Steam community.

Thanks for keeping us posted on this, by the way; I'd not thought to keep tabs on it. :)
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2019, 05:39:58 pm »

Thanks for keeping us posted on this, by the way; I'd not thought to keep tabs on it. :)

Hey, cheers!

I'm one of the reddit mods and I wanted to be sure people there see them, then I figured, "What's one more post?"

I'm honestly not sure how to set up Steam to give me alerts for these, but I was able to get my RSS reader to check it. I'll keep copying the links here!
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2019, 08:10:56 am »

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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2019, 02:48:54 pm »

I swear they told me there would only be one of these a month like three days ago, lol.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/975370/announcements/detail/1610519806188046048
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Re: Steam Official Announcement Thread
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2019, 05:14:30 pm »

Technically it's August now, the last announcement was in late July. :P
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