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Releasing children from dark fortresses should blow your cover

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GoblinCookie:
At the moment you can assume an identity, walk in a goblin dark fortress and release all the prisoners.  It makes sense that you should initially be able to infiltrate dark fortresses in this way, but only until someone spots your released children.  Also this bug need fixing.

voliol:
Rather than it outright blowing your cover, it should make you (your current fake identity) a suspect of whatever crime releasing prisoners/slaves is. Then, the goblins could react to your crime in whatever way they do, be it interrogating you, putting you in a trial, or (also before any further law framework is implemented) simply trying to kill you on the spot.

After all, you releasing some prisoners doesn’t tell the goblins that you’re not Bard Mcguitarface but actually Adventurer Mchero, the hearthsperson of a faraway country, it just tells them Bard Mcguitarface is a strange and suspicious individual who would release some prisoners.

GoblinCookie:

--- Quote from: voliol on July 05, 2019, 09:33:23 am ---Rather than it outright blowing your cover, it should make you (your current fake identity) a suspect of whatever crime releasing prisoners/slaves is. Then, the goblins could react to your crime in whatever way they do, be it interrogating you, putting you in a trial, or (also before any further law framework is implemented) simply trying to kill you on the spot.

After all, you releasing some prisoners doesn’t tell the goblins that you’re not Bard Mcguitarface but actually Adventurer Mchero, the hearthsperson of a faraway country, it just tells them Bard Mcguitarface is a strange and suspicious individual who would release some prisoners.

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There are really only five crimes for goblins, being a neutral, not killing a neutral, being an enemy, not killing an enemy and being a traitor.  If you do not fall into one of those five categories, you get off scot free.  Thing is that not killing neutrals and enemies are crimes, but not killing traitors is not; so a goblin is better off thinking of you as an internal traitor than they are thinking of you an enemy.  That way if you get away *they* cannot be punished. 

Shonai_Dweller:

--- Quote from: GoblinCookie on July 07, 2019, 06:21:45 am ---
--- Quote from: voliol on July 05, 2019, 09:33:23 am ---Rather than it outright blowing your cover, it should make you (your current fake identity) a suspect of whatever crime releasing prisoners/slaves is. Then, the goblins could react to your crime in whatever way they do, be it interrogating you, putting you in a trial, or (also before any further law framework is implemented) simply trying to kill you on the spot.

After all, you releasing some prisoners doesn’t tell the goblins that you’re not Bard Mcguitarface but actually Adventurer Mchero, the hearthsperson of a faraway country, it just tells them Bard Mcguitarface is a strange and suspicious individual who would release some prisoners.

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There are really only five crimes for goblins, being a neutral, not killing a neutral, being an enemy, not killing an enemy and being a traitor.  If you do not fall into one of those five categories, you get off scot free.  Thing is that not killing neutrals and enemies are crimes, but not killing traitors is not; so a goblin is better off thinking of you as an internal traitor than they are thinking of you an enemy.  That way if you get away *they* cannot be punished.

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In the current version of the game. The one without laws besides the near-useless ethics system. As opposed to the one in which this suggestion would be implemented.

GoblinCookie:

--- Quote from: Shonai_Dweller on July 07, 2019, 03:45:33 pm ---In the current version of the game. The one without laws besides the near-useless ethics system. As opposed to the one in which this suggestion would be implemented.

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My suggestion does not require any legal system to exist.  I was assuming that the legal system when it is exists is going to be based on ethics.

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