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Author Topic: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Spring, 1890, Production & Deployment Phase.  (Read 20655 times)

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Design Phase.
« Reply #210 on: November 23, 2019, 06:33:20 pm »

Winter, 1890, Design Phase.
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Resolute-class Armored Cruiser
Based on the Niflung, the Resolute-class armored cruiser is effectively just an evolution of the design to 7000 tons. Moving speed up to 21 knots with the increased room and improved efficiency of turbine engines being installed from the start, Bolstad Armor belt and deck capable of resisting its own main battery from 3000 out to 15000 yards, and a main battery of two twin 9" turrets fore and aft, with not one but TWO whole superfiring twin 6" turrets (one fore and one aft, of course) on the centerline, it provides a similar but noticeably different profile from the older Niflungs. A set of two additional twin 6" turrets and 8 shielded 4" guns per side of the superstructure round out the armament, providing us with a very capable combatant.

The main battery turrets are our standard twin turrets, the armored very heavily indeed, meant to resist 9" fire from the front and at any point on the barbette so that the magazines can't be easily taken out of action or set alight. The 6" turrets carry 4" of Bolstad Steel on the front, thinning to 2" at the back, providing comprehensive protection with lessened weight. Our rangefinders and advanced fire control is all integrated into protected positions, obviously with the option to just not use the Mark 2 'Eyeball' until it's fixed. Notably, the conning tower is also armored with 6" of Bolstad steel to resist incoming fire and prevent lighter HE from rendering the ship uncontrolled or destroying its ability to range on targets.

The armored citadel is not the only armor on the vessel: Being aware of the risks of high explosive shells fired at the present short battle ranges, an extended belt covers the rest of the areas of the ship with 1" of Bolstad Steel, capable of detonating a 6" shell early so that it cannot pierce deeper into the vessel. The armored deck, however, terminates with the citadel athwartships, as HE is not fired at extreme range because AP's capability to deal much more serious damage is desirable when very few hits can be achieved. The main belt covers the entirety of the ship's vitals, and the coal bunkers are focused on providing a form of torpedo protection---the firetight doors and walls of the coal bunkers are repurposed as watertight doors and a sort of simple torpedo bulkhead to prevent hits a few feet under the waterline from being immediately fatal. There is an additional inch-thick plate over the propeller shaft and aft machinery sections, deep in the ship, to provide a little bit of crucial extra protection for those sections to prevent things like hits that warp the propeller shaft and cause it to rip open large sections of the hull and flood all of the engine rooms and whatnot.

Obviously, the ship is built with our trademark durability. Our experience and design effort invested in increasing survivability allows us to have more and superior pumping arrangements and more comprehensive flooding protection and better-subdivided machinery compartments than other vessels without sacrificing as much in terms of displacement or size. Additional bulkheads, fire suppression, etc. are all combined to make the ship extremely durable, a necessity given they may end up facing off against larger opponents and trading body blows with bigger ships.
Effectiveness: 5 | Cost: 2 | Bugs: 3 | Time: 2=2

The Resolute class is a brand new cruiser. One that likely will be able to be made once we are finished finalizing the design and our newest dry dock finishes its expansion. We have gone over the entire design, and have a fairly good idea as to what the ship should be capable of when it is finished and what it has. As designed, like our coastal defense ship, it has nine inch guns, specifically 4 of them. Also like our coastal defense ship it has the armor to resist shots of the same gun it utilizes, 8 inches. The main difference between the two ships is the size and speed. While the Niflung is a squat and fairly slow ship, but one that can pack a good punch, the Resolute class should be able to reach a speed of 21 knots. Additionally, it has a decent secondary and tertiary battery, with eight six inch guns and eight four inch guns, in twin turrets and single turrets respectively.

This comes at a cost however. We found with its heavy armament, the ship might be overweight and top heavy, and with the size of the ship, combined with the layout and the extended belt armor, the ship is likely to cost much more than we would like and it is expected to take longer to finish than we'd like. Then again, generally speaking, we like things that are cheep but still effective, and it was expected to take longer to finish anyway so this point was somewhat to be expected. Regardless, we expect that the ship will cost a decent amount more than a Niflung, but it makes up for that in its much wider range of versatility.

Also, we made sure to keep a spot for the calculator once we actually fix the damn thing and get it into a decent working order. We just decided to put a simple table where the calculator will go for when we decide to replace it, which will be good as an extra spot for our rangefinders to note down what they need to...Or used for a card game whenever the ship isn't in combat and the men aren't on active duty.

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Work has quickly been finalized on the Main Battery Central Director Firing System. We should be able to apply this to new designs fairly easily, and current designs can have it added as a fairly quick modernization refit as well. Of course, we already planned to apply this to our ships under construction, but those which were made without it will need some time for it to apply. Though, again, we already planned for everything relating to the finishing of this project. So, really nothing new to report other than now we can put certain things into motion.





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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #211 on: November 29, 2019, 08:33:43 am »

 I am apparently the designated stater of generally agreed-upon plans. So, here goes.

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Revise Mk2 Eyeball to Mk3 Eyeball by mounting a series of them in a gang(to reduce errors from new data, as what machine gets new data will be one thats not currently processing data), optimizing the processes used(increasing speed), designing new housings protected somewhat from vibrations(to reduce breakage in general and not have metal cases that can be slapped apart(?!)), utilize better quality parts throughout and finally, instead of a unitary design(all the parts compose one single unit) moving to a modular design(with singular functions being a single unit, able to be replaced from stores or removed and repaired).

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>More than one unit in a setup, each unit running its own set of computations to decrease net time required.
>optimize machinery, reducing complexity and speeding it up
>better mounting, now including vibration shielding and metal that wont shatter when slapped
>modular construction
>Higher quality materials in return for more expensive is fine

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #212 on: November 29, 2019, 08:47:17 am »



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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #213 on: November 29, 2019, 11:43:02 am »

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Mark 3.1 Eyeball
In order to fix the many issues with the Mark 2 Eyeball computer, we've sent the engineers back to the drawing board with threats about revoked bonuses. Delivering a computer suitable more to the time of the Ancient Greeks is really not acceptable nowadays. The machinery is reworked so that it delivers timely solutions (it literally does one thing with one set of information, and doesn't have to do any sort of alterations based on position since we're confined to a really narrow area), can be reset in the middle of processing a solution, and doesn't break so often. Quite simple, and should result in an effective and functional piece of equipment. Lessened reliance on overly cheap parts and consideration for how parts are affected by vibration are particularly noteworthy.

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Mark 3.1 Eyeball (1): Madman
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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #214 on: November 29, 2019, 11:44:26 am »

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #215 on: November 29, 2019, 11:55:24 am »

Not quite sure how running them in serial will speed up net-calculation speed, not on this tech level at least; but at least it isn't another 'do it right you idiots' revision.... Seriously Madman, it's getting stale....

(And to be fair, those points are the only parts I disagree with. The rest I'm fine with.)

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #216 on: November 29, 2019, 07:54:22 pm »

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Mark 2A Eyeball
In order to fix the many issues with the Mark 2 Eyeball computer, we've sent the bureaucrats back to the office with threats about revoked bonuses if they don't stop accepting the results from the lowest bidder regardless of qualifications and performance.

We have reached out to the established Schwartz-Rayleigh Precision Machine Company to have them provide us with a competently-built machine that meats the requires of the Mark 2 Eyeball program. Focuses are on reliability, for which we have exchanged the presently fragile mechanisms with more durable ones of, admittedly, more expensive steel alloys that won't be easily disrupted by shock or damage. This allows us to exchange cost for durability, with a minimal amount of additional engineering work required.

SRPMC has bent their considerable expertise with mechanical computation machines to turn our refined, repetitive calculations into a refined machine that can do those repetitive calculations faster than a human and with fewer accidents and mistakes. SRPMC usually works for other nations who require such computing equipment for any number of tasks, so it hasn't been such a terrible problem for them to make a piece of equipment. In addition, since their pricing is consistent and we have examples of their work, we can pay them exactly what its worth instead of dealing with ridiculous costs *or* having a piece of equipment built by the lowest bidder.

---basically just an update of my proposal. Since it's a revision of a design I'll use A instead of moving the mark number up.

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #217 on: November 29, 2019, 09:37:31 pm »

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #218 on: November 30, 2019, 05:14:13 am »

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #219 on: December 01, 2019, 04:32:19 am »

Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
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Mark 2A Eyeball
In order to fix the many issues with the Mark 2 Eyeball computer, we've sent the bureaucrats back to the office with threats about revoked bonuses if they don't stop accepting the results from the lowest bidder regardless of qualifications and performance.

We have reached out to the established Schwartz-Rayleigh Precision Machine Company to have them provide us with a competently-built machine that meats the requires of the Mark 2 Eyeball program. Focuses are on reliability, for which we have exchanged the presently fragile mechanisms with more durable ones of, admittedly, more expensive steel alloys that won't be easily disrupted by shock or damage. This allows us to exchange cost for durability, with a minimal amount of additional engineering work required.

SRPMC has bent their considerable expertise with mechanical computation machines to turn our refined, repetitive calculations into a refined machine that can do those repetitive calculations faster than a human and with fewer accidents and mistakes. SRPMC usually works for other nations who require such computing equipment for any number of tasks, so it hasn't been such a terrible problem for them to make a piece of equipment. In addition, since their pricing is consistent and we have examples of their work, we can pay them exactly what its worth instead of dealing with ridiculous costs *or* having a piece of equipment built by the lowest bidder.

Efficacy: 5

Whether because the bureaucrats really wanted to keep their bonuses, the Schwartz-Rayleigh Precision Machine Company being quite good at working with poor material, or a combination of the two, the mrk 2A actually works. Thats right, the mark 2A Eyeball actually works and does its job without bursting into proverbial flames when so much as a speck of dust falls on it. Its not unbearably slow to calculate either. It just works. You may be expecting that the cost would be ridiculous considering, but its not. Its more expensive, sure, but not by much admittedly. Easily workable into the budget and something that certainly won't be a problem.

Now that this is out of the way, we can forget about our blunder and embarrassment... Right? Right. Lets do that. That never happened, if anyone asks.



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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Production and Deployment Phase.
« Reply #220 on: December 01, 2019, 12:44:29 pm »

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Production and Deployment Phase.
« Reply #221 on: December 08, 2019, 09:01:39 pm »

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Operations Plan 'Force Projection'
Spear, Glave, Bardiche, Brandistock transferred to FCF-1
Partisan, Fork, Halberd, and Voulge transferred to FCF-2
(i.e., all Spears not attached to the Niflungs reorganized into just two units, one of which is undergoing repairs and upgrades)

CDF-1 continues aggressive bombardment campaign against the central island.

FCF-2 deploys to the Western Theater and goes hunting for hostile warships.

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Development Plan 'No Duplicates'
>Maintain everything, continue all building
>Modernize Spear, Glave, Bardiche, Bandistock while repairing them
>Nifung goes in for modernization
>Construct new Spear class(modernized), Kontos (Greek lance, literally "barge-pole". Next on the pole-weapons list probably ought to be the Hasta (Roman term for a dory-esque spear used by the older Roman military forces) and the Pilum)


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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Production and Deployment Phase.
« Reply #222 on: December 08, 2019, 09:14:49 pm »


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Opsplan "Thing": (1) AseaHeru

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No Duplicates: (2) Madman, AseaHeru
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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Production and Deployment Phase.
« Reply #223 on: December 08, 2019, 09:21:34 pm »

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Re: Refit and Repair, Nemorland, Winter, 1890, Revision & Refit Phase.
« Reply #224 on: December 16, 2019, 12:13:01 am »

Spring, 1890, Design Phase.

We have, sadly, lost the Septum and Corseque. The Septum broke in two shortly after the torpedo hit and the Corseque was abandoned after two hours attempting to get back to a friendly port and fighting the flooding. The Pike survived however, although had to be toed back to base, suffering extensive damage to its rudder, propellers, and propeller shaft, but thankfully not suffering uncontrollable damage. Luckily, the captains of the Septum and Corseque both survived, and can be used as the captains of the next Spear classes finished should we desire.

The army is quite pleased with our work and expect us to take the central island soon. Just keep protecting the Nifung's and we will have the island taken before the year is up, after all, the losses aren't that bad. It could have been a Nifung after all, that would be terrible wouldn't it?...We get the feeling the army likes our Nifung's, perhaps a bit too much. But its hard to blame them too much, our assistance is invaluable. Oh, they also don't care about the small islands in the east. They are more just early warnings and speed bumps anyway more than actually valuable strategic possessions. Let them distract themselves with such small islands while we take the true prize in the center...So says the army anyway.



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