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[Doomblade187]

Flagship
The Lightning Wave:
The Voyager:
SSV Mariner: (1) TricMagic
IEN Hakau (1): Twinwolf
The Floating Fellowship: (2) TricMagic, Doomblade
INFS Kona (2): Powder Miner, Doomblade

Uniform
Initharian Expeditionary Force Uniforms (3): Twinwolf, Powder Miner, TricMagic

[Twinwolf]

I'm not sure why people are voting for two flagships when we only have one design for that.

Also, literally any ship we make is going to be upgraded over time, so I'm not sure the point you're making with that?

[TricMagic]

The direction it will be upgraded in. As a pure support ship, it's upgrades will also be support based, most likely.

Of course, it's also likely to turn into a floating airship at some point, given it's flat shape and the grav-material we will have access to.

Anyway, I'm voting for two cause I like support ships. Though only one can actually win, it's mostly to show we do support that choice.

[Twinwolf]

...I have no earthly idea where you're getting the airship idea from. That would probably be entirely different tech. As for two votes, even if it's for showing support it still screws with the voting.

Also switching vote to the Kona because that seems more likely to win than the Hakau and I really really don't want our flagship to be a primarily support vessel. We can always do one later next time we get one of these kinds of designs.

Flagship
The Lightning Wave:
The Voyager:
SSV Mariner: (1) TricMagic
IEN Hakau (0):
The Floating Fellowship: (2) TricMagic, Doomblade
INFS Kona (3): Powder Miner, Doomblade, Twinwolf

Uniform
Initharian Expeditionary Force Uniforms (3): Twinwolf, Powder Miner, TricMagic

[TricMagic]

A literal battleship is.. Also, if it's upgraded over time, it would likely get an airship upgrade as soon as we got the design for one. Support Vessel.

Also, where does the idea of another design like this come along? It should be remembered that the low base will likely help in difficult waters if it's designed not to sink beneath a storm. And it's most certainly not going to tip over like the Kona in such a storm. Being able to support ships is also a pretty big logistical advantage, as they can be repaired at sea rather than having to leave the battlefield or continue fighting till they sink.

[Twinwolf]

A literal battleship is what? And why would any of our ships become airships if we got them (which we probably won't bother with given we've already got planes)? An airship is a completely different kind of thing than a naval vessel. We can't just strap anti-grav to it and call it a day. Even if MoP hadn't said explicitly that wouldn't happen it would be an utterly ridiculous idea.

By "another design like this", I mean "permanently-national effort that upgrades". I sincerely doubt this is going to be the only time we get the chance to do a design with these parameters since we were all but explicitly told there would be last game and I doubt it's anything different this time.

[Man of Paper]

There is a bit of a difference between upgrading, which is what I have said will happen, and getting something completely overhauled and different

[Rockeater]

Flagship
The Lightning Wave:
The Voyager:
SSV Mariner: (1) TricMagic
IEN Hakau (0):
The Floating Fellowship: (2) TricMagic, Doomblade
INFS Kona (3): Powder Miner, Doomblade, Twinwolf

Uniform
Initharian Expeditionary Force Uniforms (4): Twinwolf, Powder Miner, TricMagic, Rockeater

[TricMagic]

What happened to your vote?

[Doomblade187]

What happened to your vote?

Powder had some difficulty concerns about the shipyard ship, which Rockeater was unaware of.

[TricMagic]

And the giant gun base ship doesn't have difficulty?

This ship will have reduced difficulty than a standard design and will be treated as though a Research Credit was applied.

This is at least a good time for it, and being able to keep ships afloat and repair them is nice. That and Support Ships support really well. Rather than pure offense, Support, and that will affect all ships at sea.

[Doomblade187]

Hey, @GM, about how icy will the Harren sea in our area be? Like, should we be worried about getting iceberg'd?

[Man of Paper]

Ice could prove to be an issue.

[Twinwolf]

Yes, a ship that's built to serve a function usually reserved for land based shipyards and big enough to do that for a fleet is most likely going to be more difficult than we can handle even with reduced difficulty. It doesn't mean "You can do anything you want" it means "Some more things are in reason". Compared to the Floating Fellowship, the Kona will likely be more likely to actually be doable, and more likely to have a good result.

Also for the terrain - I figure it's like, icebergs and flows, but not "the sea is frozen solid" or actually getting there would be difficult. I don't think it's going to be relevant early game, but if they manage to push a coast down into that area we would probably want ice-breaking ships.

[Powder Miner]

the kona shouldn't be terribly difficult, I did research on the USS Connecticut to see what kinds of guns might be reasonable for a battleship, amped it up a bit while leaning towards secondaries, and the rest is just drawing on tech we already have