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Author Topic: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 4, Phase 1)  (Read 4291 times)

TricMagic

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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 0, Phase 1)
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2019, 01:34:16 pm »

Seems good.


First question though for those not in the discord. The other side made a special material in a design. Dgr has offered to give us a random-ish material for free, or let us make a special resource and use it in a single design. Of these, I believe the random one would be good, as we don't have to roll for it.

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Don't and make our own in a future design, or not at all: (0)

The fact we don't have to roll it will at least be nice.
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 0, Phase 1)
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2019, 04:37:40 pm »

Joining the team. I think that capitalizing upon our resource advantage now would be to a lot of long term benefit for us all down the line, so-

LSAC Recycling Subsection

The LSAC is a vital supply line of Advanced Components for the Legacy of Smith extracting advanced components from the scraps of the old world, but we shouldn't dismiss the value of the leftover material after the technology parts are extracted. Set up a secondary processing line and forge to recycle these scraps into useful basic materials to further support our production rates.

[Attempt to revise the LSAC to also produce +1 ore]

EDIT: After some discord talk I'll leave this as a future design proposal instead. Voting for upgraded shotgun.

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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 0, Phase 1)
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2019, 08:52:19 pm »

I think we should put down a design to get something that would be useful, as I do not trust random dice tables to give us something that would work well.
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 0, Phase 1)
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2019, 06:29:13 pm »

You need at least one more vote for me to update and the random resource offer is retracted.
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 0, Phase 1)
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2019, 06:34:14 pm »

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Exodus: (3) TricMagic, Trent01, SC777

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SuperBronze Coils: An invention of the ancient Arcs for radiation shielding and against the Sun it had to pass through and the military coil cannons used for defense countermeasures, these powerful future-generation electromagnetic coils have the ability manipulate magnets in a precise tuning sense, either propelling magnets and the electro discharge extremely fast or to maintain an electromagnetic field for long periods of time.
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 0, Phase 1)
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2019, 03:44:59 pm »



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Exodus: (4) TricMagic, Trent01, SC777, Blood_Librarian


Special Resources
Take DGR up on their gracious offer of a 'Random' Special Resource: (3) TricMagic, Trent01, Blood_Librarian
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SuperBronze Coils: (1): SC77
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2019, 03:55:25 pm »

Smith Revision Phase 1
Smith Fielded Shotgun- 11 "Exodus" (SFS-11 "Exodus")
the SFS-11 is a restructure of the Shotgun mk1, with the primary goal of reinforcing the barrel and adding a simple internal magazine that makes the weapon into a pump-action reloader. The weapons furniture is redesigned to be used by power-armored personnel with small magnets embedded into it, allowing for suit-based magnets in the gripping appendages and forearms of the LSF 1 to be used: Our soldiers will be able to hold the weapon more steady, lessening the effect of the recoil of the shotgun.
(3+3) 6 -3 (Very hard)
As it turns out breach loading weapons and pump action ones aren't actually similar, at all. After spending most of our time figuring that out the hard way, we have managed to make a barely functional prototype. It's far to heavy to carry and explodes when we fire it. Using 30mm shells in a pump action turned out not to be the wisest idea, and turning something from breach loading to pump action isn't as simple as adding an internal magazine. In the end we had no time to try anything to do with magnets, not that the suit's magnets would be strong enough to support this thing anyway. We have learned a lot about the mechanisms of higher tech firearms while trying to make this though.
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2 Ore, 1 Organics, 1 Advanced Components.
Spoiler: Smith Designs (click to show/hide)
Design phase of turn 1 has begun.
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2019, 04:49:23 pm »

"Vanguard" Exo
A evolution of the LSSF-1 Exoskeleton, consisting of a reinforced powered exoskeleton atop a standard survival suit designed to operate at a maximum of 2x human strength achieved by usage of advanced components to enhance their servos and supply a auto-balancing system to avoid over-correction in motion. The additional strength can be used for either additional speed, hauling additional cargo on a backpack harness, or to carry additional armor plating on a series of modular mounts that can be added or removed per mission requirements. The objective is to create a new workhorse suit that can be improved upon further in future specialization.



LSF 1 Revision: Tactical Helmet
Rectify the Survival Suit's core flaw of a exposed helmet with a solid-plate wedge helmet with side and top mounted cameras tied to a internal display with low-light vision and heat sensor options besides standard visuals. No more vulnerable bubble-faceplate or illuminating lights. Usage of a unit of advanced components is authorized to make it possible, we want our troops to have good eyes in battle.

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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2019, 06:46:39 pm »

Heavy Field Operations-2  "Fenris"

The HFO-2 Fenris represents a doctrinal emphasis on heavy weapons. The main armor plates are almost an inch thick and made from a complex alloy blend that represents the forefront of material technology. The joints use sheets of formed metal that slide, allowing mobility while still allowing protection-- at its weakest, it is still a centimeter thick. The backplate contains all the systems necessary to keep the Fenris on the move, including internal batteries and the life support systems. In addition, underneath the armor consists of a thick gambeson that is interwoven with a climate control system to maintain body temperature as well as a ultra-fine weave of thermally conductive filaments that mitigate incendiary or energy weapons effects on the personnel wearing the Fenris.

The suit utilizes complex servo systems that give the user an equivalent strength to two to three times the normal limit, and allow them to field heavy weaponry like conventionally sized firearms, able to fire on the move and in less than optimal bracing conditions. Recoil is less of an issue for these soldiers.

The helmet consists of a molded piece of metal with padding and a reinforced visor. This reduces the cone of vision for the individual, but it is considered a worthy sacrifice.

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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2019, 10:49:58 pm »

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SuperBronze Coils: Advanced coils that can manipulate magnets into a fine-tuning sense, they were used by the Old World civilization and Daemon APOPHIS because of the advance properties they could be utilized for, such as radiation shielding against the Sun and cosmic entities, as well as powering the antique coil-cannons that armed the ship. These are the powerful-future generation electromagnetic coils have the ability to change magnetic fields through electricity very efficiently, allowing them to either propel magnetic electric discharges extremely fast or to maintain an electromagnetic field for long periods of time.

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Legacy of Smith Assault Ferromagnetic Exoskeleton “L-SAFE 1.0”:
The L-SAFE is a pioneer of new technologies on an exo-suit, the design maintains metallic plates and ceramic Kevlar plates around and protecting the important parts of the body, such as torso, head, and kneecaps while leaving the areas where you don’t leave armor because they hinder mobility, you can consider it to be moderately armored without affecting mobility. Advanced components are utilized in the servomotors of the suit, allowing for 1.5x as much strength compared to the normal human strength, allowing the soldier to handle more Kevlar plates for armor or the handling of heavier weapon platforms, the most interesting technology is the Electromagnetic Shield it can generate. The advanced components and SuperBronze Coils attached to the suit so that “wiring” connects around the exosuit, allow it continuously utilize an advanced battery to “charge” and then “wrap” the shield in particles, known as electromagnetic force fields, it provides a layer of particles that’s slow down ballistics and energy, as it has to penetrate the particle shielding that surrounds the suit so that the impact of those blows are weakened when they hit Kevlar and metal plating. The battery and particle shielding can last for any significant combat engagement, and through electronics the soldier can push a button on the torso of the suit, and activate or deactivate the particle shielding, and have a electrical socket in which they can charge back their armor back into full functional status

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L-SAFE 1.0: (1) SC77
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SuperBronze Coils: (1) SC777

People we can a special resource, but we can’t get a random special resource. My resource will allow us to make coilgun and Railguns much easier, while also allowing for forcefields and stuff like that to be built upon, we can’t have a random resource as stated by the GM.
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2019, 12:03:05 am »

I maintain nonetheless that yin-yang dualism can be overcome. With sufficient enlightenment, we can give substance to any distinction: mind without body, north without south, pleasure without pain. Remember, enlightenment is a function of willpower, not of physical strength.

-- Chairman Sheng-ji Yang ,"Essays on Mind and Matter"

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Monopole Magnets "Alloy-M-32
Alloy-M-32 represents the forefront of our electromagnetic supremacy. M-32 is derived from one specific "meta" material, which is a substance that has no natural origin on the periodic table or in the formation of the universe. It is only found in several resource caches buried under tons of debris and must be excavated and refined like any other material.

With Alloy-M-32, we can construct magnetic weapons wholly unlike coil or rail guns, exotic fusion containment systems, complex electromagnetic circuitry or even wilder constructions that would not be possible with dipole magnetic systems. These monopole magnets absolutely require electricity to function, as they do not hold a magnetic charge like dipole magnets.

I dont think the L-Safe is possible: Making a E-shield system and a upgraded power would be too much to do with too little.

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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2019, 01:31:43 am »

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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2019, 02:17:50 am »

Heavy Field Operations-2  "Fenris"

The HFO-2 Fenris represents a doctrinal emphasis on heavy weapons. The main armor plates are almost an inch thick and made from a complex alloy blend that represents the forefront of material technology. The joints use sheets of formed metal that slide, allowing mobility while still allowing protection-- at its weakest, it is still a centimeter thick. The backplate contains all the systems necessary to keep the Fenris on the move, including internal batteries and the life support systems. In addition, underneath the armor consists of a thick gambeson that is interwoven with a climate control system to maintain body temperature as well as a ultra-fine weave of thermally conductive filaments that mitigate incendiary or energy weapons effects on the personnel wearing the Fenris.

The suit utilizes complex servo systems that give the user an equivalent strength to two to three times the normal limit, and allow them to field heavy weaponry like conventionally sized firearms, able to fire on the move and in less than optimal bracing conditions. Recoil is less of an issue for these soldiers.

The helmet consists of a molded piece of metal with padding and a reinforced visor. This reduces the cone of vision for the individual, but it is considered a worthy sacrifice.
(4, 4) 8 -2 Hard 6 Average-low outcome
The Fenris represents a move towards heavy weaponry, with it's new heavy armor and emphasis on surviving. It works fairly well, but the heavy use of advanced allows, higher metal requirements, and use of advanced components, it is far more expensive. The suit has an additional battery, to provide power for heavier weapons and maintaining excess power for modules with the increased power requirements from the climate control and improved servos. It's capabilities do render it basically a walking tank though, one able to use insanely heavy weapons. It costs 1 Advanced components, 5 Ore, and 2 organics. Making it Very Expensive to field
Monopole Magnets "Alloy-M-32
Alloy-M-32 represents the forefront of our electromagnetic supremacy. M-32 is derived from one specific "meta" material, which is a substance that has no natural origin on the periodic table or in the formation of the universe. It is only found in several resource caches buried under tons of debris and must be excavated and refined like any other material.

With Alloy-M-32, we can construct magnetic weapons wholly unlike coil or rail guns, exotic fusion containment systems, complex electromagnetic circuitry or even wilder constructions that would not be possible with dipole magnetic systems. These monopole magnets absolutely require electricity to function, as they do not hold a magnetic charge like dipole magnets.
Resource added. Warning, Alloy M-23 is exceptionally rare, expect efforts to obtain more to be quite difficult

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2 Ore, 1 Organics, 1 Advanced Components. 0 Alloy M-23
Revision phase of turn 2 has begun.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2019, 02:01:55 pm by dgr11897 »
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2019, 02:12:54 pm »

Revision: Flight Camera Drone

A steel sphere, with supporting structures, and advanced components. Add the camera and radar, along with radio transceiver. As well as an attachable flashlight.

In this form, it as effectively a 2 meter diameter sphere. It can be opened up to do repair work as well. But it can't move.

As such, the use of Alloy-M-32 is used with a powerful battery. The supporting structures suddenly become a method to move the sphere about, floating and flying with ease. Program it, and you have a scouting system.

It flies by controlling it's own magnetic poles, keeping it levitated against the gravity here, while using power to move it in 3 dimensions. With the proper radio transceivers on our end, we can make scouting a breeze, as well as determine enemy positions.


It's a simple thing, made possible because Monopole Magnets only have a single pole, which can be broadcast to control magnetic attraction and opposition though magnetic fields. While not broadcasted, this type of movement would work extremely well in space, where there is no gravity. Likewise, they work extremely well for underwater scouting with an attached flashlight. Each Flight Camera Drone has a 30-minute run time, at which point, it needs to be recharged.

Parts needed, Advanced Component for computing, 1-2 Ore for frame/camera/transceiver, and Organics for power, along with Alloy M-23. We really don't have much M-23, so supply deficiency will be costly until we can collect some.
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Re: Power armor arms race, Legacy of Smith thread (Turn 1, Phase 1)
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2019, 05:42:55 pm »

Smith Systems Command & Control (SSC&C) "Magnificent Gaze"
The SMC&C Magnificent is a modification of civilian infrastructure to be deployable by combat engineers. This precludes the installation of field capable radio broadcasting equipment, portable radio systems, and a field structure to deploy them such that our troops are able to use them. Sacrifices in raw bandwidth for portability mean that only light digital inputs can be made, but text, voice, and small files should be possible to send, and larger files could be sent over a period of time, provided the file is compressed.

The purpose is to allow our troops the ability to update command with intelligence on the field, as well as request for fire support, reinforcements and other support without reverting to a courier network.

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