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Re: AI Rights
« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2020, 01:24:36 pm »

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« Reply #91 on: April 11, 2020, 10:07:32 am »

I don't know where this question fits, but it's comparing computer though to human "thought", and that feels AI-related.

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/thought
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Re: AI Rights
« Reply #92 on: April 11, 2020, 11:07:59 am »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
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« Reply #93 on: April 11, 2020, 11:10:14 am »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
because thinking of sentient beings as merely tools is wrong
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« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2020, 02:57:53 pm »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
because thinking of sentient beings as merely tools is wrong

But human sentients have responsibilities as well and that doesn't equate them with tools
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« Reply #95 on: April 11, 2020, 03:20:33 pm »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
because thinking of sentient beings as merely tools is wrong

But human sentients have responsibilities as well and that doesn't equate them with tools
true. I think the reason we focus on rights is because they happen to be built by people, and people tend to be of the mindset that what they build must obey them unconditionally. There were times when other humans were seen as tools, and it took far too long for people to realize that other people arenít just tools. I fear that people will treat AIs as slaves, because people build their bodies. I fear that people will create AIs specifically for a task, and dismantle those thst dare think for themselves. Humans arenít bred for specific tasks, and most of us think of other humans as equals. There are still those who think AIs are ďjust machinesĒ, if people retain that mentality even when they become sentient, they are slaves. How is sentience determined? I donít want us to treat other intelligences as slaves, intentionally or unintentionally. What are thoughts? What are emotions but reactions to stimuli? While our emotions are due to hormones, chemicals in the brain, theirs would be mediated by electricity. Are emotions states of thought that coax one to do specific actions?
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Re: AI Rights
« Reply #96 on: April 11, 2020, 03:40:08 pm »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
because thinking of sentient beings as merely tools is wrong

But human sentients have responsibilities as well and that doesn't equate them with tools

Yíever has a job with quotas?
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« Reply #97 on: April 11, 2020, 04:50:47 pm »

I'm gonna laugh when 1000 years from now the AIs are discussing the philosophical ramifications of giving humans AI rights.
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« Reply #98 on: April 11, 2020, 05:10:13 pm »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities

The problem with this discussion is that the other side of the coin has not been discussed. An intelligence doesn't just have rights - it has responsibilities.

The problem with Citizens United v. FEC is that it ignores the fact that groups of people have no inherent conscience. The individuals might - and powerful members might be able to force their conscience onto the group. But given the history of corporations - that is a rarity.

Without a conscience a machine is just a machine.

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« Reply #99 on: April 11, 2020, 08:28:42 pm »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
because thinking of sentient beings as merely tools is wrong

I don't think capitalism would agree with you, but...
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« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2020, 10:07:57 pm »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
because thinking of sentient beings as merely tools is wrong

I don't think capitalism would agree with you, but...
i agree capitalism is messed up...the humans who are stuck in the system donít think of others as tools, right?
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« Reply #101 on: April 11, 2020, 10:25:50 pm »

Why does everyone talk about AI rights but nobody talk of AI responsibilities
because thinking of sentient beings as merely tools is wrong

I don't think capitalism would agree with you, but...
i agree capitalism is messed up...the humans who are stuck in the system donít think of others as tools, right?

The tools don't, no. The ones running the system do, though.
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« Reply #102 on: April 30, 2020, 02:31:07 pm »

Interesting qualification criteria for an "AI":  does it have a theory of mind?
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« Reply #103 on: April 30, 2020, 07:49:44 pm »

The tools don't, no. The ones running the system do, though.

Sure they do. Most of them just want the other tools to rise up in revolt and die to police bullets so they can emerge on top of the new world order rather than wanting them to labor for their enrichment.
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« Reply #104 on: April 30, 2020, 07:50:30 pm »

Interesting qualification criteria for an "AI":  does it have a theory of mind?

Rick Deckard might argue that is the main qualification.
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