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[Starver]

But is that hemorrhagic or ischemic strokes? Or both (former sparked by latter) or just 'randomly' either?

Interesting to hear about, but sounds a little too narrative without any actual detail.

[ChairmanPoo]

For what I read back in the day there were reports of both.


The separation is blurrier than you might think. Ischemic strokes often transform

[Frumple]

Also seeing chatter that smokers are less likely to contract the virus or at least suffer from it? Sounds like bullshit to me. And I say that as a smoker.

I wouldn't be surprised at it being astroturfed somehow or another, honestly. People picking up on the crow plague preferentially murdering smokers (among others) and cutting back on use, followed by someone in the tobacco industry trying to drum up rumors to the opposite... well, there's this thing called "pattern recognition" when it comes to tobacco company behavior. It'd be interesting to know where that chatter's coming from.

[nenjin]

Also seeing chatter that smokers are less likely to contract the virus or at least suffer from it? Sounds like bullshit to me. And I say that as a smoker.

I wouldn't be surprised at it being astroturfed somehow or another, honestly. People picking up on the crow plague preferentially murdering smokers (among others) and cutting back on use, followed by someone in the tobacco industry trying to drum up rumors to the opposite... well, there's this thing called "pattern recognition" when it comes to tobacco company behavior. It'd be interesting to know where that chatter's coming from.

Apparently this came out of a study in France.

http://www.rfi.fr/en/science-and-technology/20200423-french-researchers-suggest-nicotine-could-protect-against-covid-19

[mko]

Seems like Italy will be opening its borders on May 1st

I am curious what kind of countries would be available for travel after doing that (what has not closed border with Italy)?

[Frumple]

Apparently this came out of a study in France.

http://www.rfi.fr/en/science-and-technology/20200423-french-researchers-suggest-nicotine-could-protect-against-covid-19

Yeah, and going by commentary on what seems to be the actual publication, there's both holes in it you could drive a truck through and other studies saying the exact opposite, heh. Not that "less likely to infect you but more likely to kill you if it does" is exactly the most reassuring thing in the world...

Least doesn't look like the initial stuff was paid shill work, tho' (at first glance anyway... you'd probably need to check the authors backgrounds to be more sure), which I guess is somethin'.

[nenjin]

That would be a hilarious cap stone to this whole mess though.

"After many months of research and testing, we've found the best way to avoid Covid is to start smoking a pack a day."

[McTraveller]

I'm still waiting for the discovery of the paper-rock-scissors of diseases.  Something like "the flu kills cancer, cancer solves lead poisoning, lead kills the flu".

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There's stuff like that with various poisons and diseases, like sickle cell disorder/malaria and various nerve agents/atropine. Don't think I've ever heard of a trilemma version, though.

[Starver]

The separation is blurrier than you might think. Ischemic strokes often transform

Yup:

Or both (former sparked by latter)

[Iduno]

I'm still waiting for the discovery of the paper-rock-scissors of diseases.  Something like "the flu kills cancer, cancer solves lead poisoning, lead kills the flu".

Most diseases, including viruses, stop functioning once the host is dead, so...



Edit: this picture is terrible. I think the version with Thanos (yeah, no. you can find that yourself) is less terrible, because that's obviously a joke.

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[Starver]

I'm still waiting for the discovery of the paper-rock-scissors of diseases.  Something like "the flu kills cancer, cancer solves lead poisoning, lead kills the flu".

Wrong way round?
Hot lead kills cancer, and possibly 'flu' will kill that. Cancer vs flu is a trickier one.

[WealthyRadish]

Apparently facebook is suspending its "pseudoscience" category of user that it's been harmlessly marketing to for years (along with the "conspiracy theory" category) as part of their continued commitment to inexpensively reduce the massive amount of misinformation spread on their shitty platform.

Thankfully, you can still see ads selling you drinkable bleach and essential oils, along with the many other cures for the Chinese-manufactured nanoplague currently clearing the way for the new world order.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-facebook-ads-idUSKCN2253CC

[wierd]

I'm still waiting for the discovery of the paper-rock-scissors of diseases.  Something like "the flu kills cancer, cancer solves lead poisoning, lead kills the flu".

Wrong way round?
Hot lead kills cancer, and possibly 'flu' will kill that. Cancer vs flu is a trickier one.

There was a story recently about flu VACCINE, which appears to prime the immune system sufficiently that it can then better identify, and then target certain cancers.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200107092558.htm

This is not exactly "Flu kills cancer", it is "Immune system kills cancer".  But, it is after being primed with a vaccination.

IIRC, some followup work was done with animal models suggesting that direct administration of the flu vaccine directly into lesions can produce stronger results, with greater cell-mass reductions, and stronger immune responses.

Interesting, but not exactly what was mentioned.

[ChairmanPoo]

Mass graves in brazil