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[geoffroypir]

Any plans yet on how to handle different cultures

I think this new update will answer a bit more to your question.

So, this is a different update, mostly talking about the story of the galaxy, and therefore how the galaxy will be generated.

So far I have mostly presented technical features of the game, but I came to the point that explaining the story of this galaxy might be relevant. Last week end I have created the generation of the galaxy, but some questions now emerge, how human kind spreaded ? Are there any others species ? What are the ruling political entities ? Etc...

Also as a disclaimer, english isn't my native language, I prefer to reassure you in advance that I won't put such poorly written summary in-game, and I will seek help from a native speaker.



Mankind progressively colonised the vicinity of their home planet, expanding slowly with a technology that barely allowed to reach 1/10th the light speed. But the discovery of a rogue planet made of antimatter made the scientific to revise theirs baryon asymmetry model, but also provided  humanity with a virtually infinite source of energy.

At the same time, it unravelled the mystery behind inactive ancient stargates as they were powered with antimatter.

New and exotic faster-than-light propulsion systems were developped, it was now possible for humans to expand without limitation in the galaxy, and they did, eagerly, stunningly fast.

A centralised federation structured the expansion, the fedearation ruled unchallenged as long as they controlled this unique supply of antimatter. No challenge meant that an inefficient and decadent bureaucracy was building up.

At the same time a charismatic prophet appeared, preaching a new religion, he managed to convince the population of the core worlds, weary of the  economical troubles due to the uncontrolled colonization, that exploitation of antimatter was a heresy to fight. The message even reached the hearth of the agnostic, while they didn't believe in any god, the economy at the same time continued to worsen, and it became clear this prophet held at least a political solution.

One day, a bold group of zealot took control of the entire defense system that protected the antimatter source. They immediatly cut the antimatter supply and a new order was created. It took only 5 days before humanity's stock of antimatter ran out. Every single colonized planetary systems were suddenly isolated to the exception of a few “loyal” core systems. Even faster-than-light communications were cut, as they depended on antimatter.

It was an unconcevable disaster for most colonies. The few self sufficient colonies manage to survive, but most plunged into barbarism or banished.

This situation prevailed for hundreds of years, but the religious order had the same fate as the old federation. A decadent society was to be replaced by a new one, in the same brutal manner.

An empire emerged, a strong, bold and violent empire. Supported by a fierce population that endured the strict leadership of a religious order. The supply of antimatter was immediatly and massively unleashed to the core worlds.

It was the time of a new colonisation era, but a brutal one. As the new empire ambition was to first rule on all the remnants, thousands of forgotten colonies. Any adventurer, with an armed spaceship and some mercenaries could conquer several world. Soon enough the empire was no more than an huge an decentralized agglomerate of little empire, ruled by ruthless warlords.

This is when the player will start write his own story. I wont make any suggestions, or tell you what you can or can't do, the game will give you the liberty to chose.



I am continuing into planet procedural generation since monday, I made some good progress, I'll probably have something nice to show tomorrow.

[Starver]

Also as a disclaimer, english isn't my native language, I prefer to reassure you in advance that I won't put such poorly written summary in-game, and I will seek help from a native speaker.

Looks fairly good. Non-native speakers of English tend to know English better than they think (or, rather, those that don't are way off, and you aren't).

If you want my opinion...

Spoiler: Small edits trying not to rewrite completely, green-bold for new, red-strikethrough for deletion, magenta used for non-literal side-commentaries (click to show/hide)

Mankind progressively colonised (bravo, anclicisation, not americanization, please keep like this!) the vicinity of their home planet, expanding slowly with a technology that barely allowed them to reach 1/10th the light speed. But the discovery of a rogue planet made of antimatter made the scientificists to revise theirs baryon asymmetry model, but also provided humanity with a virtually infinite source of energy. (nothing to do with editing, but in this scenario I'm wondering how they - presumably - mine the planet...

At the same time, it unravelled the mystery behind inactive ancient stargates as they were powered with antimatter. (want to put a new-clause comma after 'stargates', but it could be confusing with the similar one after 'time')

New and exotic faster-than-light propulsion systems were developped, it was now possible for humans to expand without limitation in the galaxy, and they did, eagerly, stunningly fast. ("[...]and they did. Eagerly. Stunningly fast." might work better, or leave it.

A centralised federation structured the expansion. , tThe fedearation ruled unchallenged, so as long as they controlled this unique supply of antimatter. No challenge meant that an inefficient and decadent bureaucracy was building up. (consider "(the) Federation", both times here and later, to give them a feeling of an official identity, unless you're determined not to even hint at their name - or that they don't name themselves as "The <Foo> Federation" in the first place in your internal background)

At the same time a charismatic prophet appeared, preaching a new religion, (Another Full-stop/New sentence point?) he managed to convince the population of the core worlds, weary of the economical troubles due to the uncontrolled colonization, that exploitation of antimatter was a heresy ^??that they had^?? to fight. The message even reached the hearth of the agnostic, (start new sentence?) while they didn't believe in any god, the economy at the same time continued to worsen, and it became clear this prophet held at least a political solution.

One day, a bold group of zealots took control of the entire defense system that protected the antimatter source. They immediately cut the antimatter supply and a new order was created (...reads to me like "a new instruction" rather than "a new governance" - maybe "(?N?ew) Order" is better, but only if they call themselves that). It took only 5 days before humanity's stock of antimatter ran out. Every single colonized (z->s, based on prior use) planetary systems were was (or "All colonised systems were") suddenly isolated, with to the exception of a few “loyal” core systems. Even faster-than-light communications were cut, as they ?also? depended on antimatter.

It was an unconcevable inconceivable disaster for most colonies. The few self-sufficient colonies manage to survive, but most plunged into barbarism or banished <= ?vanished? - also "collapsed/died(-out)/failed" would work.

This situation prevailed for hundreds of years, but the religious order had (try changing had->suffered?) the same fate as the old federation. A decadent society was to be replaced by a new one, in the same brutal manner. ("The decadent society" or "a newer one". One or other. And religious orders tend to be ostensibly against decadence - this one especially - so not sure you mean that. Consider "collapsing/failing", whatever does not repeat the prior suggested item you may have adopted in the prior paragraph)

An empire emerged, (start new sentence (or semi-colon this comma, instead)?) a strong, bold and violent empire. Supported by a fierce population that ?had? endured the strict leadership of a religious order. The supply of antimatter was immediatly and massively unleashed to the core worlds. (not sure about "unleashed", perhaps "released"? Also "immediately", can't be bothered to open yet another single-character double-tagged bit )

It was the time of a new colonisation era, but a brutal one. As the new empire's ambition was to first rule on on->over? all the remnants, thousands of forgotten colonies. Any adventurer, with an armed spaceship and some mercenaries could conquer several worlds. Soon enough, the empire was no more than an huge and decentralized s->z! agglomerate ("to agglomerate" into "an agglomeration" is something you might do, but mostly with 'stuff', not meta-entities like 'governments'. Do you mean "conglomerat(-e/-ion)"? "coalition"? Many other terms exist that you can work with, but you already had "federation" so maybe avoid "confederation" just for non-confusing rhetoric) of little empires, ruled by ruthless warlords.

("It is at this point that you, the player, will write your own story."?->)This is when the player will start write his own story. I wont make any suggestions, or tell you what you can or can't do, the game will give you the liberty to chose.

That looks as hard to read all my edits as it was to weave them all in in the first place. Maybe I did not do it in the best way, but I've put the time into it now... Anyway, it's all IMO, as well. Doubtless there are other ideas (like switch to -ize instead if -ise, when making that bit consistent ).

[Mephansteras]

geoffroypir, have you played Star Traders: Frontiers? Seems a bit like the backstory of that game. It's distinct enough, and a niche game, so I doubt anyone would accuse you of ripping them off. But you might want to check them out.

[EuchreJack]

Non-native english speakers tend to write better than many native english speakers, because they haven't integrated a lifetime of bad habits into their writing.  It also helps not to assume that you're a great writer, whereas many native english speakers think they're Shakespeare.  I think your writing is fine, but it's always nice to get a second person to review your work.

So, what do we the players get to play? Are we those adventurers/warlords that you mentioned?

[Asgarus]

Don't worry, you are doing quite well. Most French I've met online had terrible English. You are one of the few exceptions so far. Far too often the worst English I encounter comes from native speakers. Like mentioned before, they grow up with the language and are much more likely to adopt bad habits (seeing people writing "of" instead of "have" drives me insane...).

[geoffroypir]

Wow Starver, you have all my gratitude for correcting my text ! You have spent a lot of energy into this. Unfortunately I cannot edit the text in the kickstarter news but surely you gave me another rare opportunity to improve my english.
Also don't worry, I'll use "s" and any anclicisation where I can , I own you that. And no one in the known world can teach an english man how to colonise.
I will give you a proper answer to your questions tomorrow night when I'll have free time as it deserve a detailed answer indeed.

Don't worry, you are doing quite well. Most French I've met online had terrible English. You are one of the few exceptions so far. Far too often the worst English I encounter comes from native speakers. Like mentioned before, they grow up with the language and are much more likely to adopt bad habits (seeing people writing "of" instead of "have" drives me insane...).

Do you have an exemple of this mistake ?  I cannot fathom how someone can use "of" instead of "have" haha

So, what do we the players get to play? Are we those adventurers/warlords that you mentioned?

Simple answer : yes. But there will be a whole faction and political dynamic to it and allegeances to choose from.


By the way, the kickstarter ended today, at least 5 bay12 forumers have backed my project (according to kickstarter metrics) , meaning this topic was the first source of backers, so special thanks to all of you above ^.

geoffroypir, have you played Star Traders: Frontiers? Seems a bit like the backstory of that game. It's distinct enough, and a niche game, so I doubt anyone would accuse you of ripping them off. But you might want to check them out.

Haven't heard of this game, I did some research and I understand how there are some similarities, but it is mostly because we (star traders dev and me ) drawn our inspiration from science fiction literature for which I am fond.

[Bumber]

Do you have an exemple of this mistake ?  I cannot fathom how someone can use "of" instead of "have" haha

You're English could of been worse.

[Starver]

Well, sorry, but looks like I didn't get in on the ground-floor of the kickstarter, despite my "I'll write it here so it encourages me to do it", etc. I've never quite gotten from this thread onto the kickstarter zone, so I'm not any of those five I'm afraid. (Or, more accurately, I'm sorry it wasn't six of us.) Maybe later..?  When it's not 2am.

Spoiler: Further explanation o' the mistake example (click to show/hide)

"Could have" is, as I'm sure you know, contractable to "Could've". Ditto "Would've", "Should've" and several others.

Give or take the precise regional accent/localised dialect[1], it often gives something like /əv/ as an ending, after the respective /d/.

The word "of" can - depending on accent, sound like /əv/ (can range across /ʌv/ and /ɔv/, it's very diverse, as can the "-'ve" be).

Confusion thus reigns as subsections of hoi polloi develop a penchent for writing "could of" (probably accidentally/mislearned) due to saying it like that (accidentally, because of deliberate affectation[2] or maybe they learnt it like that "on the street" from accidental/affectational chatter). Most audibly noticable when their "of" is a variation of /ɒv/, which "-'ve" pretty much never is.


And then Bumber adds in the "you're"/"your" thing (/ˈjʊə/ like "ewer" vs /jɔː/ like "yore" or "yaw" - again, depends very much on accent dialect), but I'm sure you knew that.

[1] For the record, I think I default to almost /ə/, with hardly any voiced /v/, when I lapse to my sloppy "not in polite company" childhood dialect. "Coulda, woulda, shoulda", for one lot in written form, and o-apostrophe for the "of", much as with the oft-used "It's two o'clock in the morning..." ("...of [the] clock..." being the oft-used part. The rest is just a statement that only really aplies at this particular time of the night/morning )

[2] See also "axe"/"aks"/"arks/ said instead of "ask" (...a question) from a different sub-accent group, that may or may not overlap in for some people.

[Asgarus]

Don't worry, you are doing quite well. Most French I've met online had terrible English. You are one of the few exceptions so far. Far too often the worst English I encounter comes from native speakers. Like mentioned before, they grow up with the language and are much more likely to adopt bad habits (seeing people writing "of" instead of "have" drives me insane...).

Do you have an exemple of this mistake ?  I cannot fathom how someone can use "of" instead of "have" haha

Well, it seems that this has been taken care of already

[Warmist]

PTW

[forsaken1111]

Do you have an exemple of this mistake ?  I cannot fathom how someone can use "of" instead of "have" haha

You're English could of been worse.

This hurts

[geoffroypir]

nothing to do with editing, but in this scenario I'm wondering how they - presumably - mine the planet...

I believe detection would be achieved by analysing unexpected sources of gamma (a rogue antimatter body in a matter environment would regularly come across matter molecules or may even heat its local environment in a relativly dense area (like a nebula) while keeping its integrity.
Extraction could be achieved with controlled micro explosion (with matter) or maybe with gravitational manipulation, maybe by gravitationally harnessing the anti-matter body into a roche's limit of a large planet to create  a stable ring of antimatter (easier to scoop), or even a tool manufactured in antimatter and "manipulated" with a magnetic devices.
Storage AFAIK could be what we currently use at CERN (magnetisme) to store antimatter protons.

And religious orders tend to be ostensibly against decadence - this one especially - so not sure you mean that

I agree on this, I should be more specific.
It isn't really about decadence on moral and religious value, but more likely a crumbling control on population, an authority that progressively loose its grasp on population due to dissent over a deeply corrupted society.

Do you have an exemple of this mistake ?  I cannot fathom how someone can use "of" instead of "have" haha

You're English could of been worse.

[geoffroypir]

Hey

I have made some progress on the civilisation generator


more details here https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geopi/war-industry-a-sandbox-city-builder-with-physics/posts/2888046

ps : just noticed some building sprites are in the wrong tech level

[n9103]

Could call it a feature, and leave a couple from each previous age as historical buildings. 

[geoffroypir]

Could call it a feature, and leave a couple from each previous age as historical buildings. 

I can already set building as historical in my generator (locking age evolution) As I plan to add a set of monuments and I think blending era is accurate . I took that from sim city I think, where you could do that to building you liked.
But in this case I have no excuses, It seems some peoples are a bit too ahead of their time XD