Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Artifact Quests in Fortress Mode  (Read 1011 times)

Leonidas

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Artifact Quests in Fortress Mode
« on: May 22, 2020, 11:07:52 am »

One of the many bugs of unretiring a fort seems to be that artifacts lose their special "Made Here" status. Ever since unretiring, I've had adventurers stop by and say that they're on a quest for one of my artifacts. I turn them away, of course. These are dwarves! But I'm wondering if these frustrated questers will eventually turn to some type of violence to get the artifact that they've decided they can't live without.
Logged

PatrikLundell

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifact Quests in Fortress Mode
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2020, 12:19:45 pm »

No, it's actually a case of normal functionality. As soon as an artifact that can be stolen is made in the fortress a telepathic message spreads over the world and the villains claim that artifact from afar (on artifact I looked at in legends mode had about two claims per month for the half year or so from its creation to the legends mode export).

Questers will look for both your artifact and those created elsewhere, and when they know of the presence of the item thought from you loose lipped morons (often before they, themselves, have revealed why they're visiting the fortress), different things can happen:
- They can depart without incident.
- One of their party (or horde, at times: I've had 63 or so in a fortress with a visitor cap of 50, even after that bug was supposedly fixed) leaves the fortress but then returns sneaking, trying to steal the item (which probably only works if the item is something a visitor/invader has dropped on the surface, and it's still there). When discovered, the quester will either flee, or attack. Once the quester is engaged (regardless of whether fleeing or attacking) his buddies in the fortress will become hiddenly hostile, with some actually attacking while looking at them claims they're socializing, running about in panic because of all the "hostile" locals, or pretend to socialize/pray/etc. while the civilians run around in panic due to the hostile questers. Note that there is no indication whatsoever of the questers being hostile: you only guides are their actions and the vague reports of your panicked dorfs (like "the human swordman" with 10 unrelated visiting human swordmen in the tavern). On top of that you can get loyalty cascades involving visitors who are not actually part of the quester group, and residents/citizens that take the side of the criminals.

Once an artifact has been located, a quester group can be send to request it, with a rejection resulting in the same alternatives as above, and giving the item away is decidedly lackluster. With 0.47.X villains can also plot to get the items through theft, but I won't cover that.
Logged

Leonidas

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifact Quests in Fortress Mode
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2020, 12:44:49 pm »

Military gear and training for everyone, then. I like it that way. It stops the flood of worn-out clothing.
Logged

PatrikLundell

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifact Quests in Fortress Mode
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 05:10:28 pm »

Military gear and training for everyone, then. I like it that way. It stops the flood of worn-out clothing.
And removes a source of good thoughts and need fulfillment when replacing worn out clothing...
Logged

Urist9876

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifact Quests in Fortress Mode
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2020, 03:25:06 pm »

I did exactly what you wanted to do: everyone was wearing armor and knew how to handle a weapon.
With bridges and traps I thought nothing could touch me.

Then I had a kid spotting a "quester" sneaking around. Poor kid.

Cloaks and hoods are a nice addition to armor. Add as many (or little) clothing pieces to uniform you care to handle for and have the benefits of good thoughts and protection. Helm doesn't protect face. Clothes added to uniform still wear out and need be replaced. At least you would not have to produce clothing for every body part.
Logged