Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[applet]

Had the opportunity to work with a Legend+5 encruster in my community fort, Ledpaddled. Thought you might be interested to know that realistically you cannot beat adamantine trap components with low-quality decorated items. While the actual encrusting doesn't take very long, acquiring enough different types of gems does. Mind that this is Additive, so a higher-base value item would see the same amount increase in value afaik.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[delphonso]

One masterful gold decoration added about 3000 dorfbucks to the value of the backpack. If there was a way to scrape off decorations that could have been a very different challenge and probably even more micromanage-y. Anyway, cool bed.

Has anyone finished yet? I'm aiming to dig in tonight and see what I can do. I'll post...less in my write up if I finish earlier than everyone else again.

[Spriggans]

Has anyone finished yet? I'm aiming to dig in tonight and see what I can do. I'll post...less in my write up if I finish earlier than everyone else again.

Could not play this week-end, I'll try today. I will post pictures of my progress. I don't care the others copycat me. This game has been out for a long time, it's not like I could surprise you guys with a secret strat or something.

EDIT :
Removed

[Spriggans]

Spriggans (aka the Winner of the second year the booze-lover) diary of Spring / Summer play

This basically explains my troubles and my strategies for the year. Spoiler if you don't want to read it (but then, why would you be here ? )

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Riiiiight... Applet left us in a bit of a a Siegy-situation...
Since I don't feel too attached with our current army of Applets (they are only numbers, after all). I send the charge !



We are victorious ! Only one casualty, and one wounded who lost his arm.


I won't picture my fortress too much as of now, but here are some high-lights :

- Spring arrives... The fortress is cleaned from its silth : look, you can see a ghost got put to rest here


- I order some bedrooms built for the civilian Applets, and some barracks made for the military Applets !

- I feel like the bottom of our fort is too cold. I decided to dig a cozy magma pool down below


- At some point, an Ettin decides our 5 Million dwarf bucks are appealing and he attacks. He is defeated by our beloved cat : Applet the catverlord. Glory and Praise to His Name !

(A human merchant guard eventually arrived and stole the catverlord's kill by slaying it. The catverlord obviously did all the work here by softening the Ettin off.)

- Hoo, @Salmeuk, don't you think these weapons are wonderful ? Surely, they should be worth twice the others !



- My lack of carefullness had me forget to seal the caverns leading to an underground lake. A Rutherer corpse creeped in and slew maybe 5 or 6 Applets ! Most importantly Applet the 4th died !!! Not him !


- Spring keeps on going. For no particular reason, I though since I had a magma pool, I might as well make a water pool. So, here goes :


- Through dwarven magic, proper weapons are finally being made !


- Before Summer, Applet (the 47th ?, the 36th ? Can't recall...) makes an adamantine bracelet artifact. Worth 800k...


Summer arrives, aaaannd...



**** you ! It's like it's Granite again !

[StrikaAmaru]

Reaction to Spriggans' post above:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Fuuuck, I need to prioritize sealing the surface!!

(also, my great and wonderful joke from my registration post has fallen apart: we don't have 69 dwarves (nice). We have 68 dwarves and one human )

Yeah, I haven't played much either, leave it to family to devour all your free time then act like you should be grateful.

[applet]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

- At some point, an Ettin decides our 5 Million dwarf bucks are appealing and he attacks. He is defeated by our beloved cat : Applet the catverlord. Glory and Praise to His Name !

(A human merchant guard eventually arrived and stole the catverlord's kill by slaying it. The catverlord obviously did all the work here by softening the Ettin off.)

That is probably the same Ettin I got in the second (?) round.. which incidentally fought the same cat...

[Spriggans]

Spriggans' diary of Autumn / Winter play

Spoiler again. Just because.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Ennemies are at the gates ! Attack dwarves ! Attack !!
I send our ten strongest Applets against the first wave. Thanksfully, they are in the 7th level warriors now. Thanksfully again, I built a tiny wall-gate to choke their archers.


Wooo... Look at all this blood !
First wave works like a charm ! But Look at that in the North West ! That's a lot of Trolls !!


Only recruits though, our Applets are well equiped in iron/steel. They make quick work of them.

We are victorious without immediate casualties. Our hospital is half running (we have Soap, but are missing plaster). They should be fine.


But this will be a lot of corpses to get rid of...
It will be a problem to dump all the dead bodies. Our Applets morale will take a hit.


- Autumn kicks in. Weapons production are going well. But bones are getting scarse. I order the puppies, the alpacas, the donkeys butchered for more bones. We need more crossbows.

- The aftermath of our 2 back-to-back siege is a lot of Applets are dumping corpses, and their poor mind doesn't handle it well.


Some are starting to break already...
I order shiny bedrooms built. I also improove the dining halls, make proper workshops, temples, and graveyard.


- At some point in the year, we are granted the Barony title ! Yay !

- Deep down below, our magma pool is eating the water pools. We are making obsidian sword as much as possible !
But the cavern's lake is starting to dry out. I'm afraid we won't have enough water for the year.
These lake was all 7/7. Now it's only 1s or 2s... Refilling the water pool takes a while, and evaporation starts to be bothersome...



Winter is there.

- Despite my total careless-ness their removal from dumping duty, several Applets are unhappy. I attempt to save one or two of them. But, Obsidian is near, and weapons are being made swiftly, so... This is not much of my concern anymore 


- Hoo, remember the cave-lake evaporating ? Well the aqueducts leading to the water pool are dry as well. And they link the fort to the caverns... Better be aware of that I think...


- A troll Corpse used the dried aqueduct to pay the military a visit...




And there we have it ! For the sanity of our beloved OP, I made these beautiful stockpiles


Each one represents one type of weapon (so 7 piles), the last one represents the remaining weapons.
But some weapons that should be counted are probably not in these piles (eg: weapons in military), so these stockpiles are actually worthless...

SAVE (@players who haven't finished their turns : watching my score is cheaty ! You have been warned)
https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=15261

[delphonso]

Got a bit swamped as well - but booting up Numbercurse now. Should hopefully blow through the year without much issue...

EDIT: /remove turkeys

[Murr2]

Now I'm thinking I might join now, considering the... !!FUN!! situation Spriggans appears to be having.
Despite that I'm fine with waiting for a bit.

[Salmeuk]

Nice work Spriggans! Love the journaling, showing the trials and tribulations faced during the fourth round. You revealed to me a couple of things I forgot about while planning this round's scoring mechanism: Obsidian swords, and bone / wood crossbows. Both of which are valid and represent an interesting stratagem for taking the high score in each category. The more metal you can dedicate to other weapon types, the better!

Those poor turkeys. . a fowl genocide has been committed!

If anyone needs an extension don't forget you can ask for another week. I'll just hold off on scoring until you submit.

RE: Murr2, you're welcome to jump in at any point, as long as you get the save before Friday.

[StrikaAmaru]

I'm almost certainly going to need a few days' extension; I'm barely at mid-Summer, and work is kicking me pretty hard. In related news, I got a giantess, not an ettin. The human guards shot her immediately.

[delphonso]

I've had a FB brawl in the basement instead - three so far and only in Summer. The dwarves are lagging me down a bit and I might have to throw in the hat after this round if my FPS doesn't get better. Should finish and post tonight.

EDIT: Later that night:

Spoiler: contains strategy (click to show/hide)

There are 7 weapon types which are viable - two (crossbows and swords) are "natural" in that bones, wood, and obsidian can all technically be farmed. All weapons are technically viable since metal can be duplicated thanks to the melting bug. Whoever has the most of any one category wins that point - there are only 7 seven points. The one with the most points win, therefore, there are only 4 points that matter.

The following weapon types are all that I'm making:


First impressions are that things are rough - luckily there was a bone artifact door which applet also saw fit to use as the front door. It is currently forbidden, and remained so for my entire turn. Only 2 new migrants arrived, who starved to death on the surface. Poets and visitors were taken care of by the goblin siege that arrived later.

FPS is terrible - undoubtedly related to all the items we've been generating in this god-forsake fortress. I had planned to use this room to set up a time-bomb for Salmeuk - I would attach a lever and pull it just before the end of Winter, save it there are hope that everyone started the next turn with instantly murdered turkeys. Unfortunately, FPS takes precedence and all animals except applet were killed early in the first season.



-=-=-=-=-
Evidence of dissent, confiscated from "applet".
Recorded mid-winter, 52.

This place...it's worse than the statue-smiths said... Much worse, ever since that mad cat took over. Everyone's named "applet". We're not allowed to use our real names. Not even allowed to look at each other. I got sent to the depths of the fortress. It's a horrific place, the stinging scent of sulfur bubbles up from open holes into the magma sea. Forges clang and smelters cough up smoke, and the dwarves here...they hold no masterpieces sacred.



Spikes. Terrible, menacing spikes. Hundreds were made over and over - then melted down again. Through some strange geometry, the end result was more metal than they started with. Starting with a few statues, the dwarves of Numbercurse had made hundreds of weapons already. The local tetrahedrite veins supplemented their impossible math with copper and silver. Numbercurse - a fitting name. Masterworks had to be destroyed, this spontaneous generation of metal couldn't work without it. If we tried to stop, well, the cat would push us into the magma. Never saw it done, but the threat was there - always. We asked for a metalsmithing and weaponsmithing guild - we were given statues in caves with hot walls. An insult, really. There were no breaks anyway - only the forge. Only the constant hammering, melting, hammering again.

I found an adamantine blade one day - hidden in the stockpile of spikes.


I wondered - what I could do with it. I could throw it at that cat, or build some masterful trap. I even thought to end my own life with it. In the end, I threw it down the magma shaft. A small act of defiance, as I knew there wouldn't be many I could get away with.


Goblins have taken the surface and the cat does nothing to deal with them. Why have we made so many weapons if no one is going to use them? Why must I forge?
-=-=-=-=-

Don't listen to the dwarves - things have gone well, overall. I think the constant generation of masterworks has kept the dwarves from getting depressed over their constant loss of masterworks. It did start to boil over in winter, but that could also do with the dead dwarf from a failed mood and a second dwarf about to be dead from a failed mood. It's not my fault the didn't want rocks and copper bars. There were no real deaths except them and the migrants I didn't let in. Food is starting to go down, but still we have tons. I tried cleaning up and designing the place a bit, but gave up as the FPS was slow enough already without me trying to make more spaces for dwarves to go.

Anyway, I'm done. Save is here! This was a fun one, no clue how I'll fare against everyone else.

[Spriggans]

Spoiler: Strategy talk : Contains REAL spoilers (click to show/hide)

There are only 7 seven points. The one with the most points win, therefore, there are only 4 points that matter.

Yeah. If we were only 2 people playing, having 4 points means victory. But if we are many more players, maybe even a 2 points can win.
So it really depends on your strategy, do you :
- produce all 7 weapons : You cover more ground. If there are few players, you're likely to win at least 2 points...
- produce 25% of 4 weapons : One of the most balanced options IMO, given out current # of players
- produce 50% of 2 weapons : Viable if there are lots of players. You could win in this case, unless a 100% guy screws you.
- produce 100% of 1 weapon : By doing it, you're just screwing yourself, but you'll steal others points. So yeah

Many possibilities !
I went for a mixed-strategy, by doing :
- as much obsidian Swords as possible (hopefully 1 point here, unless someone out-performs me, or forges metal Swords)
- as much bone Crossbows as possible (1 point here, unless outperformed by another bone crossbower, or a wood/metal crossbows dedication)
- 90% metal WarHammers (I really hope I get this one. I suck if I don't)
- 9.9% metal Spears (Just in case nobody made spears, I forged like 50)
- I also made like 0.1 % metal Picks, Maces and Axes... Just in the unlikely case no-one made one of the three, I could snatch a free point there. I think I produced 10 of each, so reading your post @Del, I dont think I'll score...

=> That would be a 25% Swords, 30% X-bows, 40% Hammers, 5% spears. So hopefully I defeat some 4x25% players...

So, at best, I'll earn 3 points. Maybe 4 if no-one forged any spears. Or maybe just 1 or 0 if I'm out-performed... Which is absolutely possible given the cozy year I've played.

But then again, this is only strategy talk. I only used 3 or 4 forges (I smelted ores, but not the statues / didn't dupe), 2 crossbow-makers, and the obsidian farm took 4 months to start working...


I just checked your save, and you went gulaag style again xD
Weirdly though, your applets are way more happier than mine. They have no new personnal rooms or anything fancy, they are just trapped under Earth, working, and seem pretty pleased with it...
Game's logic...

[delphonso]

Spoiler: Ghost Talk (click to show/hide)

I was hoping to get a solid one point somewhere. As you can see I went with maces as the sort of "focus" - because they're widely ignored as slightly worse than warhammers. Trying to do a bit of iocaine powder over-thinking there. Axes and picks are useful for future turns, so I was happy to make a lot of them and silver warhammers are just my favorite.

I should say, 4 points are required for a guaranteed win. You're absolutely right that picking up others might be enough. I'm betting that I could outpace others since I had a good two seasons where the menacing spike duplication was in good balance to the weapon output - just let it run and designate melting every few minutes. I had originally planned to just pump out 3 weapons and bet on the others being split, so we'll see if my dilution of my plan works out for me.

Yeah, my dwarves spent most of the time chatting, making masterworks, and being haunted by ghosts. Overall, they seemed to have liked that.

[Murr2]

This has been an interesting few 30 minutes...
I've already had to call the popo on a zombie parrot who was disembering a child, struck into a vein of adamantine, and planted about a hundred seeds

And Trump has intstated trade bans on something that I didn't bother to check.

And my turn has only just begun.