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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 9) (12/15)
« Reply #240 on: January 15, 2021, 05:36:17 pm »


Pooping blish, which will be both yours and the Pasta Vēlōcis' ancestor, doesn't has the complex digestive system right now, and you won't get it as that will develop in their separate lineage, not yours. But you do have the primitive digestive tube, with an anus, so yes, it is still possible.
Right, i confused the digestive tube with a full on digestive system, sorry.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 9) (11/15)
« Reply #241 on: January 15, 2021, 06:29:30 pm »

Hi, i would love to fill the spot for the fifth and final team with another blob descendant, i love the fact that this game has already gone much further than most evolution games here. I understand that the votes for round 9 are already locked, so i will enter the scene next turn, but i have just 1 question:
Can i branch out from any living species or do i have to split from the most recently evolved ones?
As for my name i would like to go with Team Eraclito.
id really hate to leave kashyk hanging but ive got this really good idea for something id like to do execute and since this is the last permitted team i feel like this is my last chance, should i join? i could guide you through the specifics of evolutionary stuff since a lot of it is pretty convoluted
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 9) (11/15)
« Reply #242 on: January 15, 2021, 08:23:36 pm »


id really hate to leave kashyk hanging but ive got this really good idea for something id like to do execute and since this is the last permitted team i feel like this is my last chance, should i join? i could guide you through the specifics of evolutionary stuff since a lot of it is pretty convoluted

It's fine by me, the more votes we have the faster we can evolve. And don't worry, i am quite familiar with how evolution works. Personally i plan to abuse that +1 mechanic with tons of exaptations.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 9) (11/15)
« Reply #243 on: January 16, 2021, 12:54:06 am »

Hi, i would love to fill the spot for the fifth and final team with another blob descendant, i love the fact that this game has already gone much further than most evolution games here. I understand that the votes for round 9 are already locked, so i will enter the scene next turn, but i have just 1 question:
Can i branch out from any living species or do i have to split from the most recently evolved ones?
As for my name i would like to go with Team Eraclito.
id really hate to leave kashyk hanging but ive got this really good idea for something id like to do execute and since this is the last permitted team i feel like this is my last chance, should i join? i could guide you through the specifics of evolutionary stuff since a lot of it is pretty convoluted

But you are already in a team, not a new player.

Well, I did said that teams will be stuck with their lineages until either it or the game ends,but I haven't said anything about players themselves...
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 9) (12/15)
« Reply #244 on: January 16, 2021, 02:56:34 am »

I'm okay with GOTOTOTOE switching teams, if that matters.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 9) (12/15)
« Reply #245 on: January 16, 2021, 03:11:26 am »

9th Turn

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Strength Dice: 60
Temperament Dice: 3

Through the formation of a new mountain region nearby, The Barren Plains now get more rain. This is especially beneficial for the land plants, and i also helps to the refreshment of the sea.



Team Pancake
Naturegirl1999: Growing a stem: 3+2+2= capped at 5
Kilojoule Proton: Supports Naturegirl1999
Demonic Spoon: Supports Naturegirl1999

Lifted Greenplate
These plants became too differentiated from its ancestors to be a pancake. It is no longer one with the ground, it now has a long, durable stem that lifts it a good meter up. They cover the wet areas and give shade to the sunblasted plains.

But not having a vascular system has started to show its negative effects, as this is the maximum size it can grow until the cell-to-cell transfer fails. On the other hand, the pimples have automatically migrated inside the stem, as clusters of internal dots. The vestigial remnants of the water pump are now entirely gone.

Status: LC

Description
A green plant shaped like a flat, rough circle supported by a long stem. Its pan is 40 centimeters in diameter, and it is stem is a meter long. A ring of long and thin roots at the bottom of its stem dig into the soil and harvest it for water and minerals. It reproduces by growing miniature adults inside capsules just under its outer layer, which burst when the young is developed. The walls of its cells are very durable and sturdy. It has dozens of tiny oil-filled pimples inside its stem, which used to be on its outer surface and for buoyancy, but now do not serve much of a purpose beyond being minor storage units. It lives like your regular tree, forming vast, dense growths.

Habitat: The wet, close-to-coast regions of The Barren Plains.



Team Pasta Vēlōcis
A_Curious_Cat: A digestive system: doesn't matters+2+2+1=5
King Zultan: Supports A_Curious_Cat
0cra_Troper: Auto-placed as support to A_Curious Cat
Sexual Selection vote: A notochord: 1

Stiff Blish
The food this blish eats is a sparse and hard-to-harvest one, so the natural pressures made its digestive tract more and more complex until it became very efficent. The food is sucked in by the mouth which then travels through the pharynx, where an endostyle filters the water to catch it inside a mucus. The cilia on the endostyle then push the mucus back, into the esophagus, where this mucus is culminated and the place water that was sucked in exits through two slits. The mucus culminated here until it is again pushed into the intestine, where it is digested and then excreted out of the anus.

This system itself is very efficent, but just as itself is unsufficent. The animals lacks any musculature and circulation, so the it is again stuck at the same size.

But as there is evolutionary success, there is also failure. The inside of the animal is a rod of cartilage that is supposed to provide support, but it just grows and grows until it bursts out of the animals 'forehead' and keeps growing, forming an elastic horn that hinders swimming, hurts, and just makes things much harder in general.

Status: VU

Description
An aquatic animal that is 10 centimeters long. It moves along the sea floor and above with its tuff of flagella on its bum and digests any organic debris it can find through its mouth that leads to its complex,, three sectioned digestive system, which leads to an anus. It has 10 black dots on its very front, 4 of them larger then the other 6. The smaller six form a hexagon that surrounds a square that is formed from the bigger 4, which surrounds a single jawless mouth. It uses these dots to smell the water around and act according to them, approaching or avoiding alike. These dots and everything this animal has as parts are connected to and commanded by a chord of nerves that runs from front to back of the animal that branches out to the rest of the body. It is close to a rod of cartilage that always grows and eventually pierces the animals front.A mane of thin and short crimson strands surround the head region, and functions as gills. It reproduces by external fertilisation of eggs performed by two distinct genders. The fertilised eggs hatch into tiny juneviles, which reach full size and sexual maturity not too long after.

Habitat:The sea, near the sea floor as its food is there.



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flazeo25: Gills between the head and the body: 5+2= capped at 5
Maxinum McDreich: A primitive one-way digestive system: 2+1= 3
The Canadian kitten: Supports flazeo25
Sexual Selection Vote: Two thermoluminecent tendrils at the head: 6

Flair Lagus
The growths of algea it swam inside have were always richer in oxygen than other places, so it was only a matter of time until Lagus evolved to exploit this too. Six pairs of protrusions lined with redhairs provide the all oxygen it needs, so it is now much more active, yet still slow due to its tail being primitive.

A yet another adaptation was for digestion. The Lagus' mouth have gained muscle, and can open and close. It also now leads to a stomach also lined with muscle. The stomach is one way though, so half digested food is also disposed along with the feces, lowering the advantages.

As both respiratory and digestive features have been relocated, the outer layer of this lagus is now just isolative in function.

But the most eyecatching evolution on this animal is without a doubt are the heat tendrils. These tendrils are long and have some muscle to be flailed around, they each carry a sphere that produces alot of heat, and by this, in their vision the orbs glow. This is metabolically costy, and isn't vey useful, but they look nice.

Again, this animals lacks any circulation and a muscle system, so it too is stuck in the same size as well.

Status: LC

Description
A round animal 10 centimeters in width and length. It slowly moves along the sea shore and nibbles algea. It has a long tail resembling a flagella, which it uses to move around. Covering the body, a specialised layer of tissue prevents any nutrient loss. And under and around that, there is a calcite framework that keeps it rigid and provides pathways for cells to move. This is further augmented with a net of nerves just beneath the outer layer, which also controls its movement and grants it a bit of pressure reception that informs it of the depth. It has a defined front side with a head, which has two giant, organised patches of heat sensitive proteins, kind of like heat eyes, that allows it to detect the amount of ambient and directional heat, and a primitive jaw that leads to a one-way stomach. 6 pairs of fleshy protrusions covered with red hairs function as gills. Just above the eyes two long and flexible tendrils reside, and these end with fleshy orbs that produce heat, which equals to strong glow in their vision.It reproduces by the internal fertilisation by the gamet-injecting tendrils of Eral, and the internal hatching of eggs by Alur, who then releases the offspring onto a suitable patch of algea.

Habitat: Inside the algea growths that cover the shallow waters.



Team Friendly Pancake
Kashyyk: A new caste of hivecake that produces new, independant colonies: 3+2=5
GOTOTOTOE: Supports Kashyyk

Shipyard Hivecake
Among the colonies of hivecake, a new mutation has occured and by the refinement of natural selection, it has turned into a brand new caste. Incubators create colonies. They grow them inside their single enormous oil storage, and when it is big enough, they release it. No longer new colonies form by breaking apart.

But fitting alot of plants inside there is hard, so the incubator hatches a yet another caste that emergened from its influence, the settler. The settlers are a hybrid between a suncatcher and a waterrraker, essentially the ancestral form. They split horizontally instead of the normal diagonally into a single suncatcher and a waterraker, which then split into a new colony.

They are now so numerous that they can are noticable from orbit.

Status: LC

Description
A small green plant shaped like a flat circle. It is 12 centimeters in diameter. A ring of long and thin, retractable white tendrils reside, and are used to form connections with others of its kind to transfer nutrients in some, and just as water harvesters on the others. Surrounding the edges of the pan is a coat of bonding proteins that allows it to stick to others of its kind. It lives permanently stuck to the sea surface through the dozens of tiny oil-filled pimples across its body. It can be found as mats numbering several tens of thousands plants, and never alone, as they die if they are separated. It features specialised subtypes. It has the ability to let others know if it is low on or has too much nutrients by using special chemical signals, which others will act accordingly by either giving or taking nutrients. This accomplished by a communal circulatory system that spans the entirety of a given hive, and it is powered by the beating of tens of thousands of internal water pumps. It reproduces by splitting in two when it gets too big to expand their colonies, and by incubating settlers wwhen creating new colonies.

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Habitat: Open ocean.



Team Eraclito
Leonardo8: A swim bladder that is derived from the end of the digestive system: 1+1=2
Sexual Selection vote: Two fleshy mandibles with calcite spikes to chew at the hivecake colonies: 5

Vandalising Blish
A new lineage has split from the blish before the development of the new digestive system. These blish live inside the colonies of hivecakes and nibble at them.

Their anus is now connected to a small sack that fills with the gasses from the digestive processes. This sack is a swim bladder that allows the animal to control its buoyancy more effectively. But it has some significant downsides. It hinders the digestive tube, and it is also ineffective as the digestive tube has evolved to digest organic debris, not tough plant matter, so the gasses that do appear are very low. But it does function.

The digestion of the said plant matter is assisted by two fleshy, spiky mandibles. These tear of small pieces an bits from the plants, an send them inside for digestion.

It struggles with the same things its close and distant relatives struggle with.

Status: LC

Description
An aquatic animal that is 10 centimeters long. It swims inside the colonies of hivecakes with its tuff of flagella on its bum and eats pieces from the said plants through the spiky fleshy mandibles in its mouth that leads to its digestive canal, which leads to an anus. Anus is also connected to a primtive swim bladder it uses to control it buoyancy that often hinders the digestive functions. It has 10 black dots on its very front, 4 of them larger then the other 6. The smaller six form a hexagon that surrounds a square that is formed from the bigger 4, which surrounds a single jawless mouth. It uses these dots to smell the water around and act according to them, approaching or avoiding alike. These dots and everything this animal has as parts are connected to and commanded by a chord of nerves that runs from front to back of the animal that branches out to the rest of the body. A mane of thin and short crimson strands surround the head region, and functions as gills. It reproduces by external fertilisation of eggs performed by two distinct genders. The fertilised eggs hatch into tiny juneviles, which reach full size and sexual maturity not too long after.

Habitat: Inside the colonies of hivecakes.

We only have 4 spots left. And no, not three because I am going to kick 0cra_Troper out, since they never vote at all and act as a dead weight on their team.

I'm okay with GOTOTOTOE switching teams, if that matters.

This round is already done with them on your team, so GOTOTOTOE is considered to have switched now for the 10th round.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 9) (12/15)
« Reply #246 on: January 16, 2021, 03:22:28 am »

Ouch. My head hurts...

Going to need to reign that notochord in...

On a side note, I’m currently researching the evolution of animal brains.

Also, the animal won’t really be all that stiff until we get the eucoelom in (and even then it’ll still be able to bend somewhat).
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #247 on: January 16, 2021, 07:17:27 am »

Our spine, it's gone wrong.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #248 on: January 16, 2021, 07:40:32 am »

hey leonardo8, im thinking about something like a protoradula, wbu?
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #249 on: January 16, 2021, 08:26:05 am »

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Dronecakes and Cakemothers
A single colony is a collection of close relatives, and sometimes they bump into and bond with other, unrelated colonies. When the Incubators started releasing tiny little dronecakes, a fraction of a centimeter in size, into the circulatory network, the Incubators would be able to exchange genetic information, and thus perform sexual reproduction. Smaller solo-family colonies can stil perform asexual reproduction, but the gestalt colonies can now produce more genetically diverse offspring.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #250 on: January 16, 2021, 09:18:01 am »

hey leonardo8, im thinking about something like a protoradula, wbu?

That minimum result on my vote was.. really bad. I was planning to do a lot of things with that intestinal swim bladder. I need to salvage the situation and, in order not to waste a turn just improving a subpar system, i think we need to specialize. Not the route i was planning to take, but i think it is the most beneficial now.

The competition between herbivores i currently the only selective pressure we need to worry about. We are currently the best swimming herbivore, which means we are the only one that can reliably access the hivecakes on the surface without spending too much energy just to stand still in the water column. So i think that specializing on that food source makes the most sense. I was thinking of something like this
Vote:Improved digestive system: As the generations passed, the digestive tube of the vandalising blish continued to evolve further, becoming a true digestive system: the middle section swelled into a true stomach, a chamber full of digestive juices that a true pylorus could separate from the intestines, which in turn were allowed to specialize in absorbig the food. Furthermore the guts enviroment changed in way that favored gas-producing bacteria, increasing the amount of gas that could be used to fill the swim bladder.

As for your idea, we feed on soft-bodied floating algae, we do not need to scrape them from hard substrates, so i am not sure that a radula is going to do us much good. Maybe something to improve our ability to swim or find food? Or maybe, since we are in a safe spot right now we could be using this turn to lay the foundations of some important stuff for later down the road. Like...i don't know, internal fertilization? Gregarious behaviour? We could also use any of these ideas for the sex vote.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2021, 09:28:42 am by Leonardo8 »
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #251 on: January 16, 2021, 10:56:23 am »

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Muscular Framework/Network
Develop on previous muscles it grew to help move it's jaw, in an attempt develops muscular fibres and tissue. Some of these muscular fibre will be form around calcite framework to allow theses 'tendons' for forms of contraction, others will develop along entire inside length of outer layer replacing the outer layer function by hardening it to form early skin. Along the inner layer muscles coat entire inside of it and mainly around the digestive sac it just developed. Last it develop small and larger tubes of muscular fibres that now run in between two muscular layers traveling from the gills and all around the lagus, it stops at one to pass through large clump of muscular tissue that acts like weak primitive pump for it flow things through it.

SS Vote Proposal: Arrange the Lagus nerve nets into organized mesh clump inside it's head while rest of nerve nets consist of mass of nerves that gather throughout the Lagus calcite framework running from length of it's and all way to it's mesh clump into its head forming a central column. Along the central column small branches of nerves spread out leading into other parts of it's body to allow nerve transmissions to react as fast as possible.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #252 on: January 16, 2021, 01:46:01 pm »

hey leonardo8, im thinking about something like a protoradula, wbu?

That minimum result on my vote was.. really bad. I was planning to do a lot of things with that intestinal swim bladder. I need to salvage the situation and, in order not to waste a turn just improving a subpar system, i think we need to specialize. Not the route i was planning to take, but i think it is the most beneficial now.

The competition between herbivores i currently the only selective pressure we need to worry about. We are currently the best swimming herbivore, which means we are the only one that can reliably access the hivecakes on the surface without spending too much energy just to stand still in the water column. So i think that specializing on that food source makes the most sense. I was thinking of something like this
Vote:Improved digestive system: As the generations passed, the digestive tube of the vandalising blish continued to evolve further, becoming a true digestive system: the middle section swelled into a true stomach, a chamber full of digestive juices that a true pylorus could separate from the intestines, which in turn were allowed to specialize in absorbig the food. Furthermore the guts enviroment changed in way that favored gas-producing bacteria, increasing the amount of gas that could be used to fill the swim bladder.

As for your idea, we feed on soft-bodied floating algae, we do not need to scrape them from hard substrates, so i am not sure that a radula is going to do us much good. Maybe something to improve our ability to swim or find food? Or maybe, since we are in a safe spot right now we could be using this turn to lay the foundations of some important stuff for later down the road. Like...i don't know, internal fertilization? Gregarious behaviour? We could also use any of these ideas for the sex vote.
sure! im in full support, a proper digestive system could open up a lot of oppurtunities for different paths we should go. blish have fins, we could maybe evolve limbs outve that if you want to
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #253 on: January 16, 2021, 02:00:25 pm »

Pretty sure none have fins yet.
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Re: Competitive Evolution (Turn 10) (11/15)
« Reply #254 on: January 16, 2021, 05:18:28 pm »

sure! im in full support, a proper digestive system could open up a lot of oppurtunities for different paths we should go. blish have fins, we could maybe evolve limbs outve that if you want to

flazeo25 is right, we do not have fins yet. But, as long as we stay small, flagella should be enough. We can think about more options to move in case we become bigger or have a sudden need to be fast.
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