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[Ziusudra]

Dairy cows are a major source of greenhouse gasses. ¹

[King Zultan]

Dairy cows are also a major source of milk!

[dragdeler]

I mean yeah it's fairly controversial that like half of the biomass of all mammals is cows, that we keep pregnant throughout their life, to flood the market with a heavily subsidized product that isn't all that precious in your diet besides maybe a few slices of cheese and a creamy sauce a day. There is layers of controversy here hell there is even white supremacists groups that drink milk as a symbol, because caucasian types tend to be less lactose intolerant statistically.

Sorry to ruin milk, I don't even get angry at milk like a good controversy but it is what it is.

[Loud Whispers]

Commence the milk wars

[Rolan7]

I mean yeah it's fairly controversial that like half of the biomass of all mammals is cows, that we keep pregnant throughout their life, to flood the market with a heavily subsidized product that isn't all that precious in your diet besides maybe a few slices of cheese and a creamy sauce a day. There is layers of controversy here hell there is even white supremacists groups that drink milk as a symbol, because caucasian types tend to be less lactose intolerant statistically.

Sorry to ruin milk, I don't even get angry at milk like a good controversy but it is what it is.

Yeah this.
I enjoy cheese on occasion, but hoo yeah milk is controversial as heck.  Or as meat, really.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

milk

milk man bad... okay, then I submit... uh, traditionally fired bricks? They're a good building material and not too bad for the environment to produce!


//Discourse addition//
Also, wouldn't animal husbandry just be bad in general? The amount of land needed to raise and graze cattle specifically is insane... not to mention that cows are friend-shaped and many farms are pretty nasty (but I guess thats the nature of farming in many cases)

[ChairmanPoo]

You shouldn't eat poop, unless you have a strong preference to do so and are able to make legal decisions.

[Frumple]

Or if it's medically necessary!

Though I think they don't apply it orally in that case, usually? Sometimes you need some put in you for some reason or another, though. Doc'll figure it out at that point, probably...

[martinuzz]

I'd wager that poop transplantations are done anally, not orally.

[Egan_BW]

I'd argue that even if medically necessary, fecal transplantation isn't uncontroversial. I mean, it's the right idea, but there's probably lots of people who'd object to it.

[Gentlefish]

I'd wager that poop transplantations are done anally, not orally.

Fun fact it's actually frozen fecal pills that are typically ingested. It's wack.

[Iduno]

I'd wager that poop transplantations are done anally, not orally.

I don't know, I've seen a documentary online...

[Ziusudra]

//Discourse addition//
Also, wouldn't animal husbandry just be bad in general? The amount of land needed to raise and graze cattle specifically is insane... not to mention that cows are friend-shaped and many farms are pretty nasty (but I guess thats the nature of farming in many cases)

Not necessarily. 1^st, much of the land that cattle are raised on is not really suitable for much else - either because the soil is wrong, the rain isn't reliable, or because the hail storms are reliable. 2^nd, much of our fertile farm land that we do grow crops on were made that way by great herds of ruminants and vast flocks of birds - and our constant mono-culture farming of that land is not sustainable even with "fertilizer". Ideally, we should renew those lands the same way nature created them.

Then there is the issue that with too much of the land we farm crops on, we can only do so by pumping water out of the ground - which also unsustainable.

[King Zultan]

New uncontroversial idea is that no matter what we do we are completely fucked!

[scriver]

Should've stayed a virgin