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DizzyCrash

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No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« on: September 22, 2021, 10:08:33 pm »
I am testing a cow with genitals.. dont ask me why, but i cant figure out why it isnt working...

   [CASTE:FEMALE]
      [FEMALE]
      [MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
                [BODY:FEMALE:UDDER]
           [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
           [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILK:MILK_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen cow's milk]
         [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen cow's milk]
         [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:cow's milk]
         [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:cow's milk]
         [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling cow's milk]
         [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling cow's milk]
         [PREFIX:NONE]
      [MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:MILK:20000]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:CHEESE:CREATURE_CHEESE_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_NAME:SOLID:cow cheese]
         [STATE_ADJ:SOLID:cow cheese]
         [STATE_NAME:SOLID_POWDER:cow cheese powder]
         [STATE_ADJ:SOLID_POWDER:cow cheese powder]
         [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:melted cow cheese]
         [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:melted cow cheese]
         [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling cow cheese]
         [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling cow cheese]
         [PREFIX:NONE]
           [CASTE:MALE]
      [MALE]
      [CASTE_NAME:bull:bulls:bull]
      [CHILDNAME:bull calf:bull calves]
                [BODY:MALE]
           [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
           [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
      [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:MALE][BP_ADD_TYPE:GELDABLE]


The bodypart I made

[BODY:MALE]
    [BP:PN:penis:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:MALE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:11]
    [BP:RTS:right testicle:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:MALE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:6]
    [BP:LTS:left testicle:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:MALE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:6]

And the error log.

COW:MALE:penis: No tissue thickness
COW:MALE:right testicle: No tissue thickness
COW:MALE:left testicle: No tissue thickness


I have hit a roadblock... i have absolutely no idea how to continue.. i thought by adding BodyDETAIL Plans it would help.. but it only helped with the udder not the penis for some reason.

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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2021, 10:50:57 pm »
I think the problem is very likely that the penis and testicles are missing categories to define tissues in the body detail plans. For instance, tails have skin, muscle, fat, and bones assigned through the TAIL category, which tells the game what sort of stuff it's made out of.

*On a second look, it looks like they're assigned to the MALE category. That implies that the problem is probably in the body detail plan. Does their version of VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS have the instructions for the MALE category?
« Last Edit: September 22, 2021, 10:57:33 pm by Enemy post »
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2021, 11:20:35 pm »
Quote from: Enemy post on September 22, 2021, 10:50:57 pm
I think the problem is very likely that the penis and testicles are missing categories to define tissues in the body detail plans. For instance, tails have skin, muscle, fat, and bones assigned through the TAIL category, which tells the game what sort of stuff it's made out of.

*On a second look, it looks like they're assigned to the MALE category. That implies that the problem is probably in the body detail plan. Does their version of VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS have the instructions for the MALE category?

Okay so if i switch the catagory to something with similar layer and tissues... like... a tentacle? It should work?
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2021, 11:56:07 pm »
Yes, that should work. Ideally, you'd want to set up a custom section that only consists of skin and muscle, I think.
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2021, 05:03:22 am »
Protip-- penis does not contain muscle.  It contains a tendon, and vascular tissue, along with nerves and skin.

There technically are small muscles in the skin of the scrotum which contract when the testes become too cold, but that gets odd sounding when you get a combat report about the bull's testicular injury ripping muscle.
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2021, 01:44:30 pm »
[BODY:MALE]
    [BP:PN:penis:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:TENTACLE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:11]
    [BP:RTS:right testicle:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:TENTACLE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:6]
    [BP:LTS:left testicle:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:TENTACLE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:6]

I wanna add arteries to the penis so you quickly bleed to death if its cut off... how would i go about doing that?
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2021, 01:54:56 pm »
TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES on the creature definition, the same tag as on the heart and throat.

Alternatively you can create new tissue and muscle definitions for things so you can tweak individual components, and use a new body detail plan you add in at the caste level (after the body parts). That saves a lot of time if you're trying to make one or two body parts on a creature that are made from different materials or tissue layers than the rest of the creature.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2021, 01:59:37 pm by Eric Blank »
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2021, 02:10:32 pm »
Quote from: Eric Blank on September 23, 2021, 01:54:56 pm
TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES on the creature definition, the same tag as on the heart and throat.

Alternatively you can create new tissue and muscle definitions for things so you can tweak individual components, and use a new body detail plan you add in at the caste level (after the body parts). That saves a lot of time if you're trying to make one or two body parts on a creature that are made from different materials or tissue layers than the rest of the creature.

Just trying to make the area very sensitive to attack, blows to the testicles should sicken or nausiate the victim and severing should cause ALOT of blood loss, i dont know if it should be equivilent to being stabbed in the heart or throat, but heavy bleeding.

This is what i have so far.

   [CASTE:MALE]
      [MALE]
                [BODY:MALE]
           [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
           [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
      [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:TENTACLE][BP_ADD_TYPE:GELDABLE]

Thats what my male caste looks like.

[BODY:MALE]
    [BP:PN:penis:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:TENTACLE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:11]
    [BP:RTS:right testicle:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:TENTACLE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:6]
    [BP:LTS:left testicle:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][SMALL]
[CATEGORY:TENTACLE]
        [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:6]

This is the bodypart.

Iv never worked with tissues or body_plan stuff before so id likely need alot of help being explained.
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2021, 04:54:11 am »
Oh hey! I made gender elements for creatures in my own personal mod, perhaps my work could be of use to you, as something to build your own ideas from ?

My own works is not quite perfect, I've been thinking about changing things like ovaries and testicles to be a pair, rather than modelled individually. And there are possibly redundant bits in my work. Anyway, here were the things I made:

This was in my body definition file
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And then the body detail plan file

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

then I needed a material template file
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And then a bit for tissue definitions:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(note that I have allowed you to press milk from mammary/breast for applicable creatures, just in case you wanted mermaid cheese, or elf milk, or any other such terrifying ideas)

And so, in the cow definition in the creature file, I now have this bit:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Another thing to note, is that the way I've written it, it is now possible to "geld" female creatures with these body parts.

In one battle with goblins, I noticed one of my citizens (drow), one of them punched a female goblin in the vulva hard enough to smash the uterus and ovaries, and render the goblin infertile. OUCH !

Also, be aware that clothing/armour doesn't necessarily cover the gender elements. It's possible to wear a garment that covers the "lower body" but doesn't actually cover the creature's genitalia. lol.
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2021, 05:01:19 pm »
Yeah, to accomplish what you want tissue and material modding and new body detail plans to apply them will be necessary.
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Re: No Tissue Thickness? Attacks Pass through. ( Making a Cow Penis )
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2021, 06:40:09 pm »
"Making a Cow Penis"
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