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Author Topic: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.4 ISC)  (Read 3423 times)

Iris

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House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.4 ISC)
« on: February 04, 2022, 08:58:51 pm »

The war is over. The High Queen has won.

Not long ago, House Sorlaria was nothing. Now the House extends a whole fourteen planets - small by the standards of our race, no doubt, but proud.

Unfortunately, the war of independence from House Nitidid was devastating. The modest industry of the Core Worlds has been bombed heavily, and many of the Queen caste members have been killed. The defence fleet was virtually annihilated in the fighting and all that is left are small, hastily-armed civilian conversions.

This is where you come in. The High Queen has given permission to assemble a new Naval Design Bureau to begin the task of rebuilding, and eventually getting the fleet strong enough to challenge the humans - or perhaps, in time, even the other Houses.

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Spoiler: Example ship design (click to show/hide)

For your first task, the High Queen would like a patrol vessel that can be produced in sufficient numbers to defend all of the House's systems, or at least scout out positions for some future vessel with more combat capability - cheaper is better, though She has generously not given a target number. She would like the design to be ready at the end of the year 0.4 ISC (four turns from now) and has graciously given this long deadline due to recognizing the need for equipment to be designed to replace the old stocks being used currently.
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2022, 10:31:10 pm »

Are we restricted only to Xinderi Tech?
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2022, 10:46:29 pm »

House Sorlaria is free to blaze its own trail. I merely include the Xinderi and human technology lists to give a good idea of what is state-of-the-art for both.
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2022, 10:52:01 pm »

I think that's 8 design actions.
For a basic run, we could go radio+rocket, armor+engine, propeller+radar, gun+ship.

I think we only have complexity 1 industry. We might be able to squeeze in a basic long range radar and a fire control as separate entities to reduce complexity, but it'll probably still get expensive. We could cut costs by dropping FC in favor of radios, and laying down a wall of rockets, with crew-aimed guns for some attempt at PD or for finishing off ships crippled by rockets. We might want to leave the guns for last, in case we need to re-design a more important component.

We might be able to work out a scout carrier instead. Rocket+engine, propeller+steamjet, radar+parasite external bay, fighter/scout+carrier. The carrier would be nearly defenseless alone, and would need a radio conversion in the future. As a bonus, strike craft could be produced in large numbers for planetary defense.
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2022, 11:06:40 pm »

Yes, you are allowed 8 design actions, and yes, your Industry Level is currently 1.
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2022, 02:00:02 am »

 Well, currently at a complete lack of technology, we would probably be looking more at human-eque technology than Xinderi...

 So, what do we need for a picket ship? Engines(and perhaps boilers), drive system, communications, sensors, some form of weapon, small craft and/or spacesuits... personal weapons?


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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2022, 06:39:48 am »

Some form of telescope/binoculars or something to allow better visibility is pretty good for scouting ship.
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2022, 04:02:45 am »

So, to clarify- we currently have nothing, right? Everything has to be designed from scratch?

Also, what components does a ship need for bare minimum functionality?
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2022, 02:27:43 pm »

So, to clarify- we currently have nothing, right? Everything has to be designed from scratch?

Also, what components does a ship need for bare minimum functionality?

Yes. All components need to be designed from scratch.

A ship, at the very minimum, needs a powerplant and propulsion system. Other components are not vital, but are generally important to the mission. Cannons and missiles without a fire control computer or radio set (depending on guidance - self-contained missiles do not have this restriction) respectively will suffer inaccuracy, sometimes quite heavily. Ditto for gun-laying systems. Radar is important for detection, especially at the ranges of the longer missiles, and radio sets are also generally important for operating parasites. None of these are strictly necessary, but performance will suffer without them. You will have to strike a balance between capability and complexity.
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2022, 02:54:02 pm »

Next question, can we do anything to improve the Industry Level, or will it grow over time regardless of our input?
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2022, 04:35:36 pm »

Later, you may gain the capacity to increase the Industry Level, but at this time it is under the control of the High Queen and Her bureaucracy.
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2022, 12:23:24 pm »

 Since I forgot about optics for some strange reason...

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Hey Íris, any word on what the difficulty of all this stuff is?
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2022, 12:38:52 pm »

All of it, or just that post?
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2022, 02:22:03 pm »

all of it please, particularly the botes
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Re: House Sorlaria Ship Design Bureau (Design Phase, year 0.1 ISC)
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2022, 03:12:56 am »

Giving difficulty checks (and some messing about with Anydice) has shown me that a simple debuff will not work well. Because of this, I've decided to write new charts for each difficulty level instead. I have also decided to add another difficulty, Easy, and shift the harshest difficulty from Extremely Difficult to Very Difficult.

Quote from: Easy Dice Table
1: The design fails to meet requirements.
2-3: The design performs as expected.
4: The design performs better than expected.
5 or more: The design performs better than expected, giving a breakthrough of some kind.

Quote from: Normal Dice Table
1: The design fails to meet requirements.
2: The design is suboptimal in some way.
3-4: The design performs as expected.
5: The design performs better than expected.
6: The design performs better than expected, giving a breakthrough of some kind.

Quote from: Difficult Dice Table
2 or less: The design fails to meet requirements.
3-4: The design is suboptimal in some way.
5: The design performs as expected.
6: The design performs better than expected, giving a breakthrough of some kind.

Quote from: Very Difficult Dice Table
1: The design yields theoretical results only.
2-3: The design fails to meet requirements.
4: The design is suboptimal in some way.
5: The design performs as expected.
6: The design performs as expected, giving a breakthrough of some kind.

Difficulty checks will come soon when I'm used to the new system. I will also update the OP.
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Rewind, can't keep going
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