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Author Topic: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition  (Read 58591 times)

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #855 on: June 26, 2023, 04:46:13 pm »

Putin walked back his own statements and accepted a deal where Prigo and any of his men unwilling to demobilize or contract individually with the Russian armed forces are exiled to Belarus in exchange for not being prosecuted. Sounds like there wasn't the widespread support he was banking on, but this ain't exactly a good look for Putin either.

While this defuses the short-term risk of a popular uprising, it's made Putin look incredibly weak to be forced to compromise with someone he was calling a traitor less than a day prior, especially in light of his cultivated hard man persona. Over/under on the days until his first assassination attempt against his former minion?
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #856 on: June 26, 2023, 06:04:55 pm »

I've heard mumblings (vox-pops of Russians by western media, if that helps/hinders the veracity) that it may be that Putin won't even be nominated for the next relevent election cycle that (before now) he might have been expected to have won by default.

No sign of an obvious successor, though. Either an up-and-coming subordinate or whichever opposition figures manage to no longer be enjoying the Siberian air or other similar 'holidays' courtesy of Vlad's packed courts.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #858 on: June 30, 2023, 04:04:49 pm »

I thought Putin died something like 8 years ago, and all the Putins we see nowadays are alzheimer actors.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #859 on: July 05, 2023, 09:08:37 pm »

idk



This is hearsay as usual but can anyone actually competent verify it?
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #860 on: July 05, 2023, 09:15:32 pm »

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This is hearsay as usual but can anyone actually competent verify it?
Zelensky says Ukrainian intelligence have discovered a plot by Russian agents to plant explosives on top of Zaporizhia nuclear power plant to simulate an attack
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It comes as the Kremlin said it is taking measures to counter a threat of some kind of Ukrainian sabotage of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
Possible false flag attempt. The millblogger may not have been talking out of their arse suprisingly

also lol as if the world needs a reminder of US force ffs can't go ten minutes without an American intervention somewhere in the world

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #861 on: July 07, 2023, 10:32:07 pm »

https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/14t79u1/oc_animation_showing_flights_taken_by_prigozhins/
Huh. It looks like Prigozhin has just been wildly flying around Russia the whole time since his "exile" (which doesn't seem to have lasted even a single day). And not just in Siberia or whatever, he has been repeatedly flying to Moscow and St. Petersburg and all the way to the Southern border over and over and over.

Really strange stuff.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #862 on: July 08, 2023, 12:54:09 pm »

https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/14t79u1/oc_animation_showing_flights_taken_by_prigozhins/
Huh. It looks like Prigozhin has just been wildly flying around Russia the whole time since his "exile" (which doesn't seem to have lasted even a single day). And not just in Siberia or whatever, he has been repeatedly flying to Moscow and St. Petersburg and all the way to the Southern border over and over and over.

Really strange stuff.
It's probably either a body double or a form of exile. Russia isn't above taking people off airplanes and shooting them, nor using false info to get the plane to land.

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« Reply #863 on: July 08, 2023, 02:37:09 pm »

He could be sending an underling to run errands that are better done in person on his behalf. Or is himself speaking to people in person in various places. I imagine Russia's still in a lot of internal turmoil and scheming among the rich and powerful. Prigozhin is still a useful piece to the powerful in Russia, either for a second coup attempt, a patsy to take the fall for something, hiring out Wagner goons for illicit purposes, and presumably other things that I can't think of.
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« Reply #864 on: July 08, 2023, 08:57:04 pm »

Right, so I posted just a tiny bit ago that prigozhin was flying around Russia.
But it appears that he never actually left Russia and the whole exile was just a lie?
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An official also told the Times it did not appear any Wagner troops were in Belarus and that most were still at bases in eastern Ukraine. Lukashenko also told reporters Thursday that it was unclear if the Wagner fighters would come to Belarus after he previously offered them a desert military base.
And not just for him, but Wagner wasn't exiled *either*.

What a weird godamn situation.
I guess he convinced Putin that he really didn't want his job? After all, if you aren't going to kill the man I guess you might as well keep using him.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #865 on: July 09, 2023, 03:38:13 am »

I see nothing weird because there is a simple explanation: Putin is too weak to threaten Prigozhin and is afraid of retaliation from Prigozhin's allies.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #867 on: July 13, 2023, 11:04:42 am »

Perhaps more importantly, Russia's almost out of money:
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/russia-economy-trade-current-account-surplus-plunges-93-energy-exports-2023-7?amp
"The nation posted a current-account surplus of $5.4 billion for the April-June quarter, which marks a 93% plunge from a record $76.7 billion in the same period of 2022, Russia's central bank data show. That's also the smallest excess since the third quarter of 2020. "

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #868 on: July 14, 2023, 12:33:35 am »

I guess Russia doesn't have the resources to force an inevitable victory after all.
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« Reply #869 on: July 14, 2023, 02:46:26 am »

I doubt the lack of money is gonna stop Russia's fighting, might slow it down but won't completely stop it.
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