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Author Topic: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Personal Diary & Mutual Support  (Read 116524 times)

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Re: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Personal Diary & Mutual Support
« Reply #1410 on: October 03, 2022, 07:36:29 am »

Does BTG stand for Big Thotin' Gun
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« Reply #1411 on: October 03, 2022, 08:31:49 am »

Barely thinking Generals Battalion Tactical Group. It's a fairly unique Russian organisation structure where the battalion level of organisation (over 400 men and <1000 men) is a mixture of infantry, artillery, anti-air defences, engineering squads, armour and its own logistic support. In theory this means that every battalion has the means to respond to any situation, and battalions have a high degree of interoperability, as BTGs can be bundled together to form very versatile brigades. There may be some merit to this kind of structure, but currently military analysts have noted that BTGs have been used like standard battalions of infantry when they just don't have enough men to perform the same role, nor do they have enough vehicles to perform mechanised infantry role. So they exist in some awkward middle zone where without enough support from conscripts, they are very vulnerable to being flanked and encircled, because they only have 200 infantry per battalion whereas a Ukrainian infantry battalion will have 800-1000 infantry per battalion

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« Reply #1412 on: October 03, 2022, 11:13:08 am »

It isn't wholly unique to Russia. The US and other countries experimented with similar concepts in the late Cold War.
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« Reply #1413 on: October 03, 2022, 11:18:00 am »

The US still uses, IIRC, BCTs---Brigade Combat Teams. However these are more combat-oriented and not as supposedly self-sustaining as a Russian BTG is supposed to be. A BCT is, again IIRC, basically an assemblage of tanks, IFVs, and their accompanying infantry units that represents the US Army's ideal (or close to) combination of infantry and armor in a self-contained package.
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« Reply #1414 on: October 03, 2022, 11:35:13 am »

They're not the same, but they are the result of playing with a lot of the same ideas - the same way everybody in 1940 looked at the Fall Of France and came away with very different lessons on what it meant.
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« Reply #1415 on: October 03, 2022, 11:37:46 am »

Heh, Elon Musk is in a mood to get a lot of FU (and similar) from Ukrainians (and others) on Twitter with this masterpiece - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000

 Khrushchev’s mistake... *facepalms*
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« Reply #1416 on: October 03, 2022, 11:43:39 am »

FU?
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« Reply #1417 on: October 03, 2022, 11:46:59 am »

"Fuck you" at a guess?
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« Reply #1418 on: October 03, 2022, 12:07:40 pm »

Oh, I'm stupid. I thought it was a rich person/influencer thing.
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« Reply #1419 on: October 03, 2022, 12:34:09 pm »

Now he complains about a bot attack :D

Sure, when you are saying something stupid AND offensive to millions of people on a huge social media account, those angry thousands are bots.

I am so happy that this conman is unable to buy Twitter.
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« Reply #1420 on: October 03, 2022, 12:43:32 pm »

God, Musk is probably one of the most useless people rich pricks in the world.

I really can't fit it into my head why so many people think highly of him.

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« Reply #1421 on: October 03, 2022, 01:19:38 pm »

I really can't fit it into my head why so many people think highly of him.

This is easy. Like any conman, he sells dreams and easy solutions. People like this.
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« Reply #1422 on: October 03, 2022, 01:24:16 pm »

God, Musk is probably one of the most useless people rich pricks in the world.

I really can't fit it into my head why so many people think highly of him.
Same way there are people who are famous for being famous. There are people who like Musk because they buy into the marketing that says he is likable

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« Reply #1423 on: October 03, 2022, 01:45:38 pm »

This is easy. Like any conman, he sells dreams and easy solutions. People like this.
Sounds to me like you're selling an easy solution to the Musk problem. I like this, but can I have a dream with that?
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« Reply #1424 on: October 03, 2022, 04:12:59 pm »

This is easy. Like any conman, he sells dreams and easy solutions. People like this.
Sounds to me like you're selling an easy solution to the Musk problem. I like this, but can I have a dream with that?
Only if you're prepared to take all your school exams again, with unintelligable question papers for subjects that you've not revised for. And you're naked!
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