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Let whatever happens happen for now

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Redo the 90s as they happened in real-life as closely as possible

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Gulf War escalates into World War III including limited nuke exchange

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Centralist (Ultranationalist) coup in the Soviet Union

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Try to rebuild the Millennium Cold War scenario

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1995 Norwegian rocket incident leads to limited nuke exchange

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Lock this thread and start a new one from scratch

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[Tok'ra Operative]

Now alt-history Afghanistan understands how Capitalism works better than today's America.

Oh damn Afghanistan might out capitalism America!

Ironic considering that Afghan ideology is Developing Capitalist like the Latin American allies not Democratic Capitalist like the United States.

Edit: Then again South Africa and Papua New Guinea both became Democratic Capitalist and they're economy is pretty much the same as the original Developing Capitalist states, a problem I hope to remedy soon.

[EuchreJack]

No way Kryuchkov recognizes the treaty forged by weak glasnost Gorki valid following the August Coup.

[King Zultan]

That treaty belongs in the trash!

[Tok'ra Operative]

That treaty belongs in the trash!

No way Kryuchkov recognizes the treaty forged by weak glasnost Gorki valid following the August Coup.

East Germany either declared a thing once again OR limited to Soviet military bases with Honecker in charge until his death in '94.

[King Zultan]

Instead of east Germany it could be more Russia.

[Tok'ra Operative]

Instead of east Germany it could be more Russia.

East Germany should've been included in Shadow President. That was probably the original intention too given that the population level seems to be of only West Germany. East Germany could've simply been set as a vassal of West Germany to symbolize reunification.

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I found the fix to the military/nuclear aid and nuclear spending $0 glitch - gotta reduce my peace level to "uneasy peace" rather then keep it at "righteous" or "just peace". Its probably more complicated then that however because my peace level was righteous at the beginning of 1993 and 1994 yet there was no sign of that bug. Hopefully this is the last I've seen of that annoying glitch. I used an alternate method of calculating aid money and added the missing cash via UGE at the start of 1998 so technically I don't have to revert back to the start of 1996. I am currently at the start of 1999 so reverting now would lose me three years as well as weeks of work not to mention retconning several communist coups including Japan. But if a majority feels I should go back then I shall.

[King Zultan]

No need to go back and fix things you've already figured out how to fix.

[EuchreJack]

We must go forward into the new millennium. No step back.

[Tok'ra Operative]

We must go forward into the new millennium. No step back.

No need to go back and fix things you've already figured out how to fix.

Speaking of the new millennium, I will almost certainly be using UGE program to make adjustments to the saved game files used for the scenario. Things like ambition, ethics, war/peace, etc. will be changed. For example the peace levels will probably be reduced to "uneasy peace" rather then "honest/righteous" since this is gonna be a Millennium Cold War scenario. Plus it would also temporarily address the glitch where military/nuclear aid money and nuclear spending dropped to $0; increasing U.S. peace might cause the glitch to set in again though I should know whether or not that will be the case next in-game year. Most United States alliance members have "honest" ethics and not certain I should reduce that to a lower level. France will probably be the only country with "selfless" ethics and an "honest/righteous" peace level. Ambition on the other hand could be increased since I don't see any aligned states being "reserved". Most leadership will be balanced to a default level of 50% with some exceptions; the Soviet Union for example will have 100% leadership to ensure they present a challenge.

[Tok'ra Operative]

Shadow President Update

It is New Year's Day 1999 with only one year remaining until a new century and a new millennium. The Cold War is ongoing with the Soviet Union having avoided collapse and now dominating half the world. Japan remains Communist though is no longer formally on the Soviet Union Team Alliance due to having attained Great Power status though not strong enough yet to snag Soviet allies as their own. Afghanistan became Developing Capitalist following the overthrow of the Communist government there and the United States was able to help the country become a regional power with an economy much like Western Europe and no longer in a state of civil war - I might switch their ideology over to Democratic Capitalist. Their military is unusually strong for its size due to a higher military spending to manpower ratio but this is necessary due to being vulnerable to Russian invasion. American Samoan economy has been greatly improved and for a while was on the Top 10. The U.S. territory in question is now vulnerable due to Western Samoa becoming Communist - might add an invasion crisis to the Millennium Cold War scenario. China remains Communist for now with their government narrowly holding power followed by their failed attempt to seize Hong Kong from the United Kingdom by military force after they refused to turnover control. Taiwan recently detonated a nuclear test bomb underground, marking a crucial step in becoming a nuclear power - China should be worried about now... Developing Capitalist states while still allied with the United States now have a sentiment of indifference with the United States, probably due to the ideology currently being the third largest behind Democratic Capitalism and Communism.

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[King Zultan]

Sounding like we're gonna have a spicy new millennium.

[EuchreJack]

Does Developing Capitalist allow more variation in future government development over Democratic Capitalism?

I sort of like Developing Capitalist being the Third Way. It also opens the door to Afghanistan going Nationalist or some other ideology.

The important question: Should a Millennium mod start IN the new Millennium, or on the EVE of the new Millennium?
Might be time to make a backup file, while things are working. 
A possible idea would be to have the Millennium mod start a few months before the New Millennium, with something set to trigger on January 1st, 2000.

...I think it's been two decades since I typed Millennium that many times.

[Tok'ra Operative]

Does Developing Capitalist allow more variation in future government development over Democratic Capitalism?

I sort of like Developing Capitalist being the Third Way. It also opens the door to Afghanistan going Nationalist or some other ideology.

The important question: Should a Millennium mod start IN the new Millennium, or on the EVE of the new Millennium?
Might be time to make a backup file, while things are working. 
A possible idea would be to have the Millennium mod start a few months before the New Millennium, with something set to trigger on January 1st, 2000.

...I think it's been two decades since I typed Millennium that many times.

Afghanistan social outcry is virtually non-existent so no real chance of a Nationalist takeover.

I will probably start the scenario off on January 1, 2000.

Thinking of a few potential events to add to the queue file including a Cuban invasion of Puerto Rico or American Samoa or some other random invasion elsewhere. I considered a Soviet invasion of China however with Taiwan set to become a nuclear power might be best to keep the Chinese around for now as a standoff between the two would be far more interesting.

[King Zultan]

Sounds like everyone's gonna be having some fun in the new millennium, but time will tell weather it'll be nuclear powered !!fun!! or not.

[Tok'ra Operative]

I have reached October 1, 1999 and am taking a quick break before moving closer to the Millennium. It has been relatively uneventful so no screenshots this time however I will point out that South Africa is looking more like a Western European country in terms of Quality of Life and economy. Papua New Guinea isn't that far behind. I also increased the QofL of Guam to 100% plus I also gave the QofL of most Israeli vassals a boost as well. Nearly all if Israel's vassals are at righteous peace with the exception of Iraq and Kuwait which are still in a state of low conflict plus Iraqi QofL remains the same since their GNP exceeded 3.5% making economic talks with them ineffective. Given those two are where the Gulf War originated it seems fitting. Resolving this can be a goal for the Millennium Cold War scenario.

Also I have plans to work on an additional scenario in honor of late Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev which will depict the Soviet Union as a free democratic socialist nation due to his New Union Treaty being successful. It will either be set on January 1, 1992 OR August 20, 1991 with the latter being when the New Union Treaty was signed. It can be safely assumed in this world that the August Coup never took place or Gorbachev's guards were able to stop the coup plotters from detaining him resulting in him returning to Moscow to sign the treaty on schedule and to have the Gang of Eight arrested. This failed coup didn't collapse the Soviet Union but it did hasten a "Red Divorce" between the Soviet government and the communist party.