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How should my current Let's Play Shadow President proceed?

Let whatever happens happen for now
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Redo the 90s as they happened in real-life as closely as possible
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Gulf War escalates into World War III including limited nuke exchange
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Centralist (Ultranationalist) coup in the Soviet Union
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Try to rebuild the Millennium Cold War scenario
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1995 Norwegian rocket incident leads to limited nuke exchange
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Tok'ra Operative

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Re: Return of the Shadow President
« Reply #255 on: August 28, 2022, 03:00:41 am »

A risk of nuclear annihilation always add excitement to any game!
Update: Nuclear holocaust was fortunately avoided (for now). The United States threatened a military strike but that didn't dissuade the Russians from attacking Israel so I responded with a surgical strike which unfortunately failed. However while Kryuchkov won this round neither the military threat nor failed surgical strike triggered a nuclear response.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2022, 08:14:37 am by Tok'ra Operative »
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King Zultan

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Re: Return of the Shadow President
« Reply #256 on: August 29, 2022, 02:43:46 am »

One nuclear armageddon avoided, but there are more potential armageddons are to be avoided in the future.
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Re: Return of the Shadow President
« Reply #257 on: August 29, 2022, 04:12:55 am »

1997 Hong Kong War
In response to the Communist Resurgence of the 1990s including the recent Soviet sponsored coup in Columbia as well as Chinese refusal to honor its commitment to one nation two systems", the United Kingdom has refused to handover control over Hong Kong to the People's Republic of China. At exactly midnight on July 1st, 1997 local time (Hong Kong 12 hours ahead of Washington) when the deadline for the handover had been reached, the Chinese People's Liberation Army initiated a full-scale invasion of British Hong Kong. Chinese President Li Peng announced that China was not technically at war with the United Kingdom and that the PLA was merely conducting a "special military operation" to liberate Hong Kong from imperialist occupation. Several Commonwealth countries and even the United States joined the United Kingdom in defending its hold on Hong Kong despite warnings from the Chinese President against intervention. While the United Kingdom and its Commonwealth allies are each contributing nearly half their respective armed forces, the Chinese still outnumber them by 10 to 1 so an increase in U.S. forces in Hong Kong is very likely. Since Article 5 doesn't include Hong Kong, NATO remains neutral in the conflict as does the Soviet Union due to not being formally aligned with China. As such there is consensus that the fighting currently does not qualify as a world war despite a number of tabloid magazines saying otherwise. The United States will unlikely carry out any military strike against China itself with the fighting being limited strictly to defense of Hong Kong however there is a strong possibility of economic sanctions.

1997 Hong Kong War
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Other Events of Note
Libyan Terrorism and U.S. Response
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1997 Soviet-Israeli Crisis
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Soviets Help FARC Overthrow Government
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EuchreJack

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Re: Return of the Shadow President
« Reply #258 on: August 29, 2022, 11:58:53 am »

Interesting times!

Tok'ra Operative

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Re: Return of the Shadow President
« Reply #259 on: August 30, 2022, 02:05:40 am »

1997 Hong Kong War
The 1997 Hong Kong War ended on September 16, 1997 with a decisive victory for the United Kingdom, its Commonwealth allies, and the United States. The Chinese People's Liberation Army was forced to withdraw from British Hong Kong after having sustained just over half a million casualties marking China's military losses since World War II. Hong Kong lost nearly one third of its GNP and Allied casualties while light in comparison to China exceeded 18,000. Further escalation of conflict had been avoided with no nuclear weapons use nor attacks into Mainland China. In addition to preserving the British Empire, the successful defense of Hong Kong also marked the first major victory for the West against the Communist Resurgence of the 1990s which had begun with the Hardliner Coup in the Soviet Union in August 1991. Trade relations between the United States and China are currently restricted and will remain so at least through the remainder of 1997.

Victory In Hong Kong
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Hong Kong Economy Before and After
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U.S. Restricts Trade With China
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King Zultan

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Re: Return of the Shadow President
« Reply #260 on: August 30, 2022, 02:21:37 am »

Well that certainly ended better than it could have.
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Re: Return of the Shadow President
« Reply #261 on: August 30, 2022, 02:48:23 pm »

Indeed

Tok'ra Operative

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« Reply #262 on: September 03, 2022, 06:08:52 pm »

Well that certainly ended better than it could have.
Indeed
Didn't think of it at the time but the Chinese People's Liberation Army circa 1997 invading Hong Kong have proven to be more of a paper tiger then the modern-day Russian Armed Forces invading Ukraine.
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King Zultan

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« Reply #263 on: September 04, 2022, 01:30:05 am »

What do you mean when you say paper tiger?
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« Reply #264 on: September 04, 2022, 12:47:04 pm »

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King Zultan

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« Reply #265 on: September 05, 2022, 02:11:25 am »

Oh that makes much more sense now.
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« Reply #266 on: September 05, 2022, 03:36:55 am »

Oh that makes much more sense now.
Given the rate of attrition I think the conflict would've ended by the end of 1997 or early 1998. At that point they would've had so little military might they probably would've formally allied with the Soviets. But even before then the Soviet forces deployed in adjacent countries would've aided China if I tried taking advantage of their weakness. Assuming of course China didn't resort to nuclear weapons from losing such a significant portion of its military.
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King Zultan

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« Reply #267 on: September 05, 2022, 03:48:05 am »

They'd only need one nuke to flatten Hong Kong, and in that situation China always loses as they lose the troops and Hong Kong.
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« Reply #268 on: September 05, 2022, 03:51:29 am »

They'd only need one nuke to flatten Hong Kong, and in that situation China always loses as they lose the troops and Hong Kong.
And the United Kingdom would've nuked the United States for nuking Hong Kong - being unable to stop myself from auto-nuking wouldn't save me from the consequences. Popularity drop, resignation of my defense secretary, etc.
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King Zultan

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« Reply #269 on: September 05, 2022, 03:55:14 am »

So it's one of those every one loses situations, probably need to prevent that from happening.

Also that auto-nuking thing seems like kind of a pain in the ass.
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