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[muldrake]

I hate it when people expect me to tolerate the far-right. I don't consider them worthy of rational debate, only mockery and, if possible, emotional abuse.

I don't have to tolerate anyone though.  As early as Usenet, I could simply filter out any content I didn't like with regex, if I wanted to get that agitated about content I didn't like.  Or sort it with scorefiles so the stuff I liked would instantly float to the top while stuff I didn't was down in the cesspool that I generally ignored.

Somehow, this kind of functionality has nearly disappeared from any online forum.  Technology has gotten worse in the 30 years since I could just instantly find what I wanted to find on the Internet and ignore morons.

[MaxTheFox]

I hate it when people expect me to tolerate the far-right. I don't consider them worthy of rational debate, only mockery and, if possible, emotional abuse.

I don't have to tolerate anyone though.  As early as Usenet, I could simply filter out any content I didn't like with regex, if I wanted to get that agitated about content I didn't like.  Or sort it with scorefiles so the stuff I liked would instantly float to the top while stuff I didn't was down in the cesspool that I generally ignored.

Somehow, this kind of functionality has nearly disappeared from any online forum.  Technology has gotten worse in the 30 years since I could just instantly find what I wanted to find on the Internet and ignore morons.

I could have witnessed the (twilight years of) Usenet if my family had internet when I was young.

But yeah, that's a downside of everything being more interconnected.

[King Zultan]

I don't hate you, nor do I consider you an enemy. You have bad beliefs, but I don't want to see you punished for it because they are not bad enough.

Well that's good, but what would make it bad enough?

I've always found this ''left and right'' stuff confusing. Like, what do they even mean? Can't we just classify people as ''cool and shitty''?

Just shove them all into the shitty category and you'll be right most of the time.

[muldrake]

Well that's good, but what would make it bad enough?

Some sets of beliefs simply could not lead to a positive outcome if carried into action.  I do think though that a lot more potential terrorists get caught when allowed to run their mouth and reveal their intentions in advance.  And in many cases, the speech itself might be illegal, such as true threats or incitement to imminent lawless action.  Even when they aren't saying outright illegal things, they often give away that they're probably an unstable person to be given a broad berth if possible.

[MaxTheFox]

I don't hate you, nor do I consider you an enemy. You have bad beliefs, but I don't want to see you punished for it because they are not bad enough.

Well that's good, but what would make it bad enough?

Being an actual bigot. You don't seem to be.

[King Zultan]

I don't hate you, nor do I consider you an enemy. You have bad beliefs, but I don't want to see you punished for it because they are not bad enough.

Well that's good, but what would make it bad enough?

Being an actual bigot. You don't seem to be.

I don't think I am at least I wasn't last time I checked.


Also any news on that whole twitter thing with that Elon guy?

[Cathar]

No more information since he invented the concept of putting deals "on hold". NYpost is the only newspaper to still cover that trainwreck and without new solid information.

[EuchreJack]

No more information since he invented the concept of putting deals "on hold". NYpost is the only newspaper to still cover that trainwreck and without new solid information.

It is hardly a new concept.  Hollywood has been doing it for decades.
I guess it was all a hoax after all, otherwise we'd see Twitter's spokespeople being far more vocal.

[Cathar]

Musk of all people is an usual client of that sort of tactic. Do/say outrageous things on the internet and fish in the troubled waters. Maybe he'll buy Twitter, maybe he'll back off the deal somehow, maybe he'll be forced to buy. We don't know, and really, we shouldn't let that influence our lives and decisions because it is the crux of the tactic.

[KittyTac]

Elon would be very good at playing Jester in Mafia.

[Cathar]

Elon would be very good at playing Jester in Mafia.

He's a natural at being a clown.

[Strongpoint]

Elon would be very good at playing Jester in Mafia.

He's a natural at being a clown.

This clown made billions... Mostly by selling hype to naive people, manipulating stock markets, getting access to taxpayers' money... but he made billions.

[Rolan7]

My dad is convinced that Musk made money off the debacle by, let me see if I remember...  Using a fixed amount of Tesla stock as collateral, and Tesla plummeted on the news, so he paid a much lower fine than he should have?  Presumably gaining money by selling stock beforehand like he always does, the scum.

I have no idea if that's true at all, but I'm grateful my dad isn't into crypto or Musk's cons.

[Cathar]

This clown made billions... Mostly by selling hype to naive people, manipulating stock markets, getting access to taxpayers' money... but he made billions.

He actually inherited most of his wealth made in south africa using democratic and human means I'm sure, and the rest is a lesson to be learnt about electing officials who read the paper before signing grants, but you are right, he also cons people (HeY gUys WaNt To bUy DoGe CoIns). None of his businesses are returning profits.

Edit : As for his wealth, from what I grasped, it's mostly paper wealth. The stocks of his companies do not return dividends and I'm not even sure they grant meaningful voting rights, meaning they only have a speculative value. So yeah. Extremely volatile and only valuable as long as you find someone willing to buy for higher, expecting to sell it for higher. The day bidders stop coming at the door, the value is wiped clean. You're better off investing in tulips.

I have no idea if that's true at all, but I'm grateful my dad isn't into crypto or Musk's cons.

Imho you're overestimating the man. He's just crossing fingers that Twitter let him off the hook at this point in time. He thought it was a funny joke, and got pushed into doing something dumb and now he's waking up and is praying for things to fix themselves. He's the James Cameron of the tech industry.

[heydude6]

My dad is convinced that Musk made money off the debacle by, let me see if I remember...  Using a fixed amount of Tesla stock as collateral, and Tesla plummeted on the news, so he paid a much lower fine than he should have?  Presumably gaining money by selling stock beforehand like he always does, the scum.

I have no idea if that's true at all, but I'm grateful my dad isn't into crypto or Musk's cons.

Musk made money off of the twitter deal because it gave him an excuse to liquidate 8.5 billion dollars worth of overvalued Tesla stock while it was near its peak price. Even if he pays the billion dollar quitter's fee, he's still making a 7.5 bill profit assuming he doesn't buy it back when the price crashes.

The only way Musk can lose now is if Twitter forces Musk to buy it against his will. There are indeed mechanisms in place to make that happen. We'll have to wait to see if they will come in play