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« Reply #330 on: June 07, 2022, 11:52:40 am »

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As for AI, just think of Air Bags and Seat Belts. Once an AI can drive a car safer than the average driver

Safer than an average driver won't be enough. No car manufacturer will want to play liabilities for AI errors. And with slightly safer than an average driver there will be A LOT of deaths, injuries, and damaged property caused by AI errors.

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BTW, I laughed so hard when Musk promised "thousands of fully autonomous robotaxis next year." or something like that.
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« Reply #331 on: June 07, 2022, 12:26:04 pm »

Then he promised sex-bots and went to trial for showing his dong to a journalist. Business as usual, I guess. Safe investment, serious guy.

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« Reply #332 on: June 08, 2022, 03:12:31 am »

I don't see myself ever not owning a car since I live about 30 minutes from town and want noting to do with town life.

And I don't really see wide spread electric car ownership within the next 30 or so years do to the massive cost of the things and the whole need to be recharged for 4-6 hours thing, also because of a study I saw a few years ago that said that some countries such as the US and UK were just barely producing enough electricity to power the things that were there at the time, so adding loads of vehicles powered by electricity would make the problem worse do to all the added load on the infrastructure.



Has anything Musk promised actually happened?
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« Reply #333 on: June 08, 2022, 03:19:54 am »

I don't see myself ever not owning a car since I live about 30 minutes from town and want noting to do with town life.

And I don't really see wide spread electric car ownership within the next 30 or so years do to the massive cost of the things and the whole need to be recharged for 4-6 hours thing, also because of a study I saw a few years ago that said that some countries such as the US and UK were just barely producing enough electricity to power the things that were there at the time, so adding loads of vehicles powered by electricity would make the problem worse do to all the added load on the infrastructure.



Has anything Musk promised actually happened?

His Space Dongs Rockets mostly work. He went to Space.Probably He's infected our minds so we can't stop talking about him.

As for Electric Cars, all it takes an incredibly stupid government to say "Gas is Illegal".  It's closer than any of us realize. 
Governments don't have to know how to implement things: They just say DO THIS SHIT, and stumble around the consequences.
And it's gotten worse, I think.  Then again, I wasn't around 100 years ago, so maybe its just my perception.

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« Reply #334 on: June 08, 2022, 05:22:16 am »

As for Electric Cars, all it takes an incredibly stupid government to say "Gas is Illegal".  It's closer than any of us realize. 
Governments don't have to know how to implement things: They just say DO THIS SHIT, and stumble around the consequences.
UK policy (if that's any guarantee) is to stop all new pure-fuel vehicle sales by 2030 and phase out hybrid even by 2035.

Several caveats there, from "but of course the schedule will slip, due to 'unforeseen issues'" to "what if going all-electric is shown to be bad, the way that the push for diesels was a decade or so ago".

I don't think the energy issue need be a problem. Push for every electricity-generation option going (resubsidise rooftop solar, especially large factories, etc) plus energy storage (to smooth things out, if wind, tide, sun all are at a minimum and the other 'on demands' need ramping up) and do more for household efficiencies than the last few lackluster attempts at it. But, knowing governments, it will be badly handled and so it might be touch-and-go whether that becomes a future problem.
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« Reply #335 on: June 08, 2022, 09:05:25 am »

Has anything Musk promised actually happened?

As far as I know, his investment in Paypal is the only of his ploys rendering society a service of any kind, Tesla doesn't count. Feel free to correct me, but other than Paypal, which with all its flaws and its unfair transaction prices, is at least of some use to the public, nothing ever really worked.

Edit : before anyone mentions Starlink, if we never go to visit the actual stars, it will be because of idiotic ventures like this one, ending up clogging the lower orbit with space junk we cannot remove.

His Space Dongs Rockets mostly work.

As far as I know, most of them explode in a very non environmentally friendly burst of fuel flames in the natural reserve around Boca Chica, which harbours a collection of endengered species. What history will remember of his rockets, is Texan government expropriating villagers at gunpoint to make way for a private venture ending up in exterminating rare species of cats and turtles.

Wild life preservations societies and expropriated residents are currently organizing to end that joke, which to them is of little comedy value.

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He's infected our minds so we can't stop talking about him.

He has a good communication team, that's for sure. Saturation of the public space is the essence of propaganda.
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« Reply #336 on: June 08, 2022, 10:20:41 am »

Starlinks are immensely useful on Ukrainian frontlines but I really doubt the practicality of those in civilian use and yes, space junk is a problem.
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« Reply #337 on: June 08, 2022, 10:28:03 am »

It is blasting Russian agit-prop in Ukrainian canals. The whole "free speech absolutism" side of that affair. Not once I have heard anyone involved in Ukrainian conflict mentionning Starlink, and I follow that conflict closely.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I'll ask for sources on that, especially since Elon was critiqued especially for promoting racist agit-prop with his array.

AFAIK Ukrainians want weapons, not mass medias.


Edit : Ukrainians don't communicate via starlink when they are on the frontline, do they ? Russians were notorious for communicating with bad opsec at the beggining of the war and it contributed to the failure of their their blitz toward Kiev
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« Reply #338 on: June 08, 2022, 11:05:04 am »

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Ukrainians don't communicate via starlink when they are on the frontline, do they ? Russians were notorious for communicating with bad opsec at the beggining of the war and it contributed to the failure of their their blitz toward Kiev

Sometimes you need your communications to work and don't care much if the source can be detected. And Starlinks works as long as you have a generator\battery to power it. It is also surprisingly hard to jam. For example, it is how surrounded defenders of Mariupol were able to send videos outside.

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« Reply #339 on: June 08, 2022, 03:41:21 pm »

Starlinks are immensely useful on Ukrainian frontlines but I really doubt the practicality of those in civilian use and yes, space junk is a problem.

Actually, this is the Number 1 reason to invest in Musk.
He's build a monopoly in the Space Trade through Starlink and Space Junk. You ain't getting into space without Musk's approval.
This is also the Number 1 reason NOT to invest in Musk. Governments don't like that sort of thing, so he'll eventually get smacked down to size.

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« Reply #340 on: June 08, 2022, 06:47:31 pm »

I'm pretty sure starlink can exist mainly because the US internet service cartel can't easily shut it down like it can land-based competitors, allowing it access to a huge market of consumers that is used to being price-gouged for internet.
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« Reply #341 on: June 08, 2022, 08:04:29 pm »

Starlinks are immensely useful on Ukrainian frontlines but I really doubt the practicality of those in civilian use and yes, space junk is a problem.
Starlinks are in a low earth orbit so they automatically fall out of orbit after a time, and are not large enough to pose any risk of hitting the ground.  I'm not sure whether they cause more terrestrial pollution to launch or to self-decommission.
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« Reply #342 on: June 09, 2022, 03:04:24 am »

So we've found the one thing Musk has done that wasn't complete shit, way to go team!
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« Reply #343 on: June 09, 2022, 08:36:42 am »

So we've found the one thing Musk has done that wasn't complete shit, way to go team!
And of course, it's Flying Penises.

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« Reply #344 on: June 10, 2022, 01:28:01 am »

And of course, it's Flying Penises.
It all makes since now he needed to make dickships so he could one day return to Dickplanet!
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