Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[skeightmachine]

Hey, I was wondering what the difference was between armor that my character starts out with and its counterparts in the shops.

For example my character starts out with a bronze shield, but in the shop they have a <<bronze>>. Whats the difference between these? Should I upgrade to the <<bronze>> and the <<bronze>>?

[Somagu]

Well, I don't notice much difference, but it's pretty sweet to parry arrows with a <<Iron>>.

[PvK]

Examine the item and hit V to get an explanation, which can be decorations, materials used, quality (which hopefully has some effect on performance?), and damage level.

[Capntastic]

There's a listing of the icon meanings in the in-game help.

[Aquillion]

Specifically:

<<This>> just indicates that the object is decorated.  Raises value, but doesn't help in any real way right now.

-This-, +this+, ≡this≡ and *this* are quality indicators, in order of quality.  The stars are masterwork.  I don't know if they actually make a weapon more effective yet, though...

◀This▶ indicates that something is magical.  You probably won't see it anywhere, since magic isn't in yet, but if you do you should obviously snatch it up.

$$This$$, of course, just indicates that something belongs to an adventure-mode shop and not you, while (this) indicates that something in fortress mode originated from outside the fortress.

[Frogman]

quote:Originally posted by Aquillion:
<STRONG><<This>> just indicates that the object is decorated.  Raises value, but doesn't help in any real way right now.</STRONG>

You can examine them! If it says there are pictures on the item in the description, you'll get a new entry in the "Art" section under Legends. And that.. is good. Sort of.  

quote:Originally posted by Aquillion:
<STRONG>-This-, +this+, ≡this≡ and *this* are quality indicators, in order of quality.  The stars are masterwork.  I don't know if they actually make a weapon more effective yet, though...</STRONG>

The positions of ≡this≡ and *this* should be switched.

I salute you for using the ≡ symbols, though! I didn't think they were part of standard fonts.

Also:
xthisx(somewhat damaged)
XthisX(damaged)
XXthisXX(very damaged)

[ September 07, 2006: Message edited by: Frogman ]

[Gedsaro]

No, I'm pretty sure that this and this should not be switched (ok yeah so its just this and this cuse I can't make the symboles, still, No switching!)

[Frogman]

Mm, but there are two different kinds of stars. The one Aquillion listed (the asterisk) comes before the triple bar thing. The other star is bigger and has a hole in the middle. And um, that one is masterwork.

EDIT: Mixed people up.  :confused: Sorry!

[ September 08, 2006: Message edited by: Frogman ]

[skeightmachine]

Okay, I went to the nearest ruined and picked it dry. Then I traded the goods to local shops to get a new ≡ weapon and a few pieces of ≡ armor. I didnt notice a huge difference in damage or damage reduction. Is there a difference, and if there is how much and how can I tell. As far as I know there isnt a way to figure out how much armor class someone has or the damage range of a weapon. Thanks!

[Frogman]

At least you can get greaves and plate mail. And a decent helmet. And boots.

Those do increase your armor class, or whatever it should be called.

[LordNagash]

I actually wouldn't mind a definative answer on this.

Although I have to say, I stole a pike from a skeltal pikemaster once, which was very high quality, and though I had no skill in it at all I was doing quite a lot of damage.

[Varil]

I've found that with decent stats/wrestling you can kill any 'regular' enemy without even trying, even wielding a weapon you've never touched before. My talented pikeman, with a good wrestling skill and massive stats from high throwing/ambushing, lost his pike somehow and collected a two-handed sword in replacement. I devastated the competition despite my lack of skill. I got owned by a master lasher though.

...come to think of it, I think that particular goblin has killed me *twice* now. The bugger.

[skeightmachine]

Has anyone found anything better than Iron in their adventures? Right now Ive seen bronze armor/weapons and also Iron armor/weapons. If there are Steel weapons and such I will hunt night and day for the set  

[Tommy2U]

You can find your soldiers from abandoned fortresses with their equipment in mountain halls. I was surprised to see a familiar recruit with an obsidian sword. She dropped it a bit later in a fight and I promptly got it.
We died soon after of course, peppered by *copper arrows* from a kobold master bowman's bow.

[Toady One]

Quality has a huge effect on damage and damage reduction *however* you have to be very careful right now.  Do *not* buy based on the symbol on the object.  These symbols are more dwarf-mode oriented.  If an object has giant stars around it, sure, it's a masterwork, but that might be because of the masterwork hanging rings of silk or something.  I find it fastest to use the look command and press enter on each object on the tables.  Then it will say things like "this is an exceptional [item]".  Exceptional is almost double damage/damage block, which is good.  Pick up the item you want, go over and buy it, then collect your change from the table.