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Author Topic: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING  (Read 46962 times)

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Re: The Fitness Thread (aka Git Fit, aka Swole Patrol, aka Many Rep, Such Wow)
« Reply #525 on: December 26, 2021, 05:17:42 pm »

Hollow Body Holds are great, they're basically planks but upside down. And the hollow position automatically makes all planks, sit ups, crunches, and leg raises more productive for the abs and safer on the lower back.

You can even add resistance to the hollow hold by wearing heavier shoes or putting heavy stuff on your feet.
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Tried the butterfly situps, they seemed less productive to me than normal situps? Entirely possible I'm doing them wrong, of course.

Hmm, I didn't mean soft as in flabby, more the muscles weren't... tense? Present? Heheh. I'm naturally slim, it would take a miracle for me to add weight.

Besides which, the aesthetics aren't 100% the reason. More like... 55%.  ;D
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Re: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING!
« Reply #526 on: March 09, 2023, 10:44:03 pm »

I'm back motherfuckers! (Sorry NRDL)

I was out for nearly two years after my broken arm. On top of that, a whole bunch of life and work drama, and throwing my back out AGAIN last summer really sapped my motivation. But my body probably needed the break. I'm fuckin' 41! I managed to keep most of the weight off but feel like I lost about 50% of my gains.

Well, it's time to set a rhythm again. I've spent the last month working out in my apartment, just getting myself reconditioned to hard work. Simple free weight exercises, some band work, the usual battery of ab work on the floor. My apartment complex demolished the club house with the crappy gym, and is wasting my time in getting me access to the sister property's gym across the street. So for now I'll graduate back to the work gym.

I'm dramatically weaker, which isn't surprising, just disappointing. Pushups are a struggle again. I can barely do 10 before I'm totally gassed out. I've been doing them from my knees instead. My pecs feel it, but so do my triceps and weirdly my lats. I've lost a lot of ability to talk to my muscles. It's still there, as is the knowledge, but it's a connection I have to reforge.

I'm also going to focus on slightly different things. Like windshield wipers for obliques, a lot more leg raises, in addition to my butterfly situps which I'm slowly rebuilding my way back to doing weight again. I think I've found a strategy that spares my back a little. Sadly I don't think any gym I have access to will have a real barbell or squat rack and that's pretty disappointing. No deadlifts or squats or OHP. Starting to think it's time to buy a real gym membership, despite how much I don't want to drop ~$600/year on a good one with a sauna.

It feels great to be working out again though. Shit's awake, my mood is improving. My motivation isn't 100% there for some unrelated reasons and I'm only working out 2 to 3 times a week. But the intensity is still there and I can still do HIT workouts like I never really left. So that's encouraging. My knees and joints are feeling pretty good (lower back still a little sketch at times) but I'm doing some sitting and laying on pressure points using racquet balls to try and address some of that. My friend cracked my back the other day when things were super stiff and it was like 7 of them. I immediately felt better. I've generally scoffed at chiropractic work but I think I got some spinal compression issues I need to get worked out before I do any serious barbell work. Really I just need to find a bar to hang from for a good minute consistently. That'd do me a world of good.

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Tried the butterfly situps, they seemed less productive to me than normal situps? Entirely possible I'm doing them wrong, of course.

Hmm, I didn't mean soft as in flabby, more the muscles weren't... tense? Present? Heheh. I'm naturally slim, it would take a miracle for me to add weight.

Besides which, the aesthetics aren't 100% the reason. More like... 55%.  ;D

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The point of butterfly situps is that they disable your hip flexors, which most people engage to complete situps to take the pressure off their abs. The buttefly situp is supposed to force your abs to do more work.  If you're breezing through butterfly situps and say your abs don't feel engaged.....what does feel engaged? Because that's the thing that's doing the work. But if you can successfully do butterfly situps considering most people can't do them without their feet braced by something.....your ab strength to weight ratio is probably pretty high. Which tracks if you're slim and you work out.

You can try this though. Take the butterfly position, do the situp until you're vertical. Then breath out, clench your abs and lock them down, the slowly lower yourself to flat again while keeping the tension. Do you feel it then?
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Re: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING
« Reply #527 on: March 09, 2023, 11:03:24 pm »

I honestly wasn't sure what the etiquette for Necro'ing is anymore, glad this is back


I've been taking a very different approach to my own training lately. Been reading a lot of the works of Dan John and Paul Mcilroy, and I've been trying to get stronger while keeping effort per set relatively low.

E.g., if I've got a 10 rep max on the bench press of 70kg, instead of trying to do 3 sets of maximal reps with that ( getting maybe 10, 8, 7 reps for those 3 sets) I'd instead do only 3-4 reps, and do 15-20 sets instead. So I've done potentially more than twice the volume, at the same weight, without feeling any drain or threat to the nervous system. Getting plenty of submaximal practice in.


I don't really expect to get bigger with this type of training, but I do expect to get stronger, if I can take my working sets from 70kg to 80, without any increase in RPE ( Rate of Perceived Exertion ) or make my working numbers at that weight from 3-4 to 7-8, while keeping total volume the same.


It'll be an interesting experiment
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Re: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING
« Reply #528 on: March 10, 2023, 09:01:45 am »

I ran a half marathon in November 2021.  Now Im 50lbs heavier.

Turns out snacking at a desk all day and working from home isnt healthy, and when winter came I kind of even stopped running.

It feels good to move; ask me how Im going in 1 month
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Re: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING
« Reply #529 on: March 10, 2023, 09:19:09 am »

Did some basic core exercises yesterday and I could feel places where I'd let myself get weaker. My general fitness level is pretty good, but I put on a few pounds over the pandemic that I've yet to shift. Eating more, moving less, and getting older... I feel like I should get running again. A few years ago I was pretty fast, and could reliably do 5km in under 24 minutes (best time 22:47) but other stuff happened and I just totally stopped.
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Re: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING
« Reply #530 on: March 15, 2023, 09:50:10 am »

Finally badgered my apartment complex staff enough they gave me a new keyfob for the gym. I don't know why they delayed for three weeks but w/e, going to check it out today after work.

I think I'm about back in condition for growth. Did about an hour and 45 mins of a workout yesterday (taking longer breaks) and while I'm a bit stiff today I'm not really sore. So I think it's time to get access to weights outside of what I have in my house and MAKE DEM GAINZ.
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Re: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING
« Reply #531 on: March 22, 2023, 07:33:52 pm »

Successfully re-integrated into the gym. I'm very pleased to see they have an adjustable cable machine, that's a first for me. Lots of cool stuff you can do on that.

That said, pro-tip: if you ever get your hair dyed, realize you'll be dripping color for ??? time after you got it done if you sweat a lot in the gym. My gym sweat rag looked like I melted Lucky Charms into it, it was all sorts of different colors by the end of my session.

Also forgot the joys of working out around other people. Nothing like a 20-year-old newbie dropping 20 pound dumbbells from his hands and slamming racks for an hour straight like he's power lifting. I can respect making some noise in the gym.....when it's warranted. Your 20 pound dumbbell curls don't warrant that though.  After he dropped them and they almost rolled into the person working next to him I thought he'd get it....but nope. Finally had to give him the Evil Eye, I couldn't take it anymore. First day back around people in a work out setting and I'm already feeling hostile :P

Too bad the gym only has a smith machine with a barbell attached....but I guess a heavy Smith Squat is better than a Goblet Squat with the heaviest dumbbell you can manage to hold.

Can't wait to get back!
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Re: The Fitness Thread - THE RE-SWOLLENING
« Reply #532 on: March 22, 2023, 07:40:53 pm »

I love watching the kiddies flex their 25lbs around!!

They bend their backs when doing lazy hammer curls.

They do nice little sets of 8.

They lift their legs up when bench pressing!!


P:  in my own news, I have restarted my home exercising again.  I want to stay out of the gym if I can - I dont lift for weight anymore anyway.
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