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Author Topic: what is the range of noticing different objects for happines?  (Read 786 times)

DefaultUrist

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Hello. I'd like to build super happy fort.
I noticed that dwarves usually have good thoughts from being near a fine object. For example:
dwarf happy from being near a fine furnace/grate/lever e.t.c

What is the range of this event? Should dwarf bypass in a surrounding squares of a object? Or is it like 2tiles range or smth like that?

I want to build corridor of all objects/buildings made from platinum, but no idea how wide must it be, so dwarves could admire everything.
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DefaultUrist

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Re: what is the range of noticing different objects for happines?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2023, 11:39:14 pm »

I did some !!SCIENCE!!.
I started a new embark with platinum bars, built platinum carpenters shop in a 3 wide corridor, ordered to move goods near it. None of 7 dwarves had a good thought of being near a fine carpenters shop. I ordered carpenter to do some barrels here, he also had no good thoughts. Seems I'm confused about mechanic of admiring buildings.
Anyone have ideas? Or how to do another science?
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Re: what is the range of noticing different objects for happines?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2023, 12:28:00 am »

I'm not an expert in this stuff, but I thought maybe it only mattered for certain buildings, like trade depots, bridges, furnaces, and wells.

This list of buildings comes from this page: https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Mason
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Re: what is the range of noticing different objects for happines?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2023, 07:50:03 am »

Also, most furniture that is constructed, like cabinets and tables.
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Re: what is the range of noticing different objects for happines?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2023, 08:17:01 pm »

Range is adjacent tiles only, IIRC.
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Re: what is the range of noticing different objects for happines?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2023, 04:10:40 am »

There goes the plan for placing artifacts behind glass walls.
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Re: what is the range of noticing different objects for happines?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2023, 01:58:17 am »

About making dwarves happy:
I have 2 tiles wide corridor in fort, so I built 2 tiles wide paved road and 2 tiles wide bridge (2x1 both). Almost all dwarves get good thoughts passing by.

Also have layout like this:
xrrx
xbbx
x--x
f--f
x--x

r - paved road
b - bridge
x - wall
- - floor
f - steel floodgate
none of dwarves got a good thoughts of floodgates, IIRC i saw dwarves in snother fort with this thought.

may be it's because bridge and paved rouad near by and those thoughts > floodgate thought. no idea -_-
« Last Edit: March 15, 2023, 02:01:08 am by DefaultUrist »
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