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Author Topic: TURKISH ELECTIONS ARE... Over. All is lost. (TurkePol Thread?)  (Read 8559 times)

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Re: TURKISH ELECTIONS ARE... Over. All is lost.
« Reply #135 on: May 31, 2023, 06:04:43 pm »

It will only get worse in time.
So AKP camp is invincible?

AKP owns;

  • All TV media
  • All Ministries
  • The Police
  • The Army
  • Turkish High Election Foundation
  • The Congress

Yes. They are invincible.
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« Reply #136 on: May 31, 2023, 10:59:58 pm »

Sounds about right, but I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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« Reply #137 on: June 01, 2023, 11:39:22 am »

Sounds about right, but I find your lack of faith disturbing.

I mean, I am an atheist. Lacking faith is a description.

On a more serious note, I don't see this absolute shitshow ending until ersoğan dies, hopefully screaming in pain for days on end.

But even if he drops dead (as he should) right this second, the fact that he is a symptom and not the disease himself will not change. Half of the country are the human equalivent of sheep. If you get them into a fold once, they are in there for life. You can tell them to jump off a cliff, and they'll do it.

There is some hope though. His voters imagine him like he is some deity. Their devotion is religious (Seriously. I would like to see a socio-psychological research on thier collective insanity.) His death will cause many copycats to appear, essentially shattering the cult of personality he built up into many, conflicting sects, which then can be crushed by the opposition block.
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« Reply #138 on: June 01, 2023, 05:08:07 pm »

People who believe, aspire, and fight for something tend to be more successful at bringing about change than those who passively wait for thing to change.
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Re: TURKISH ELECTIONS ARE... Over. All is lost.
« Reply #139 on: June 01, 2023, 05:14:55 pm »

The Journey of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step

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« Reply #140 on: June 01, 2023, 05:18:36 pm »

and there is no hand to catch time
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« Reply #141 on: June 01, 2023, 05:19:02 pm »

They can only kill you once

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« Reply #142 on: June 01, 2023, 06:38:53 pm »

People who believe, aspire, and fight for something tend to be more successful at bringing about change than those who passively wait for thing to change.

Oh, don't worry. The time to do that will come, inevitably. There is a breaking point for everything.
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« Reply #143 on: June 02, 2023, 01:59:25 am »

I, even I, know the solution
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« Reply #144 on: June 02, 2023, 05:01:22 am »

I, even I, know the solution
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Whoa, slow down Dionysus.
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« Reply #145 on: June 02, 2023, 01:12:31 pm »

People who believe, aspire, and fight for something tend to be more successful at bringing about change than those who passively wait for thing to change.

Oh, don't worry. The time to do that will come, inevitably. There is a breaking point for everything.
Maybe. This reminds me the USA politics, where people thought that Trump is the problem rather than the symptoms. With a lot of online only activist who affect nothing, meanwhile I think the AKP camp isn't waiting for anything, they are making kids and educating them how they like.
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« Reply #146 on: June 07, 2023, 05:48:45 pm »

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« Reply #147 on: June 07, 2023, 08:20:31 pm »

I suppose it's a fair trade off. More economy, less women's rights (Erdogan wants to scrap a law that protects women against marital violence. In other words, he wants it to be okay to beat your wife).
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« Reply #148 on: June 07, 2023, 09:34:52 pm »

I am talking about what is. Trying to see where Turkey, a major player on the global stage, is heading.

Otherwise, quick google suggest that Erdogan already have scraped the law, also his stated reason is because the vague language of the law was used to promote LGBT rights in Turkey.
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« Reply #149 on: June 08, 2023, 05:25:19 am »

President Erdogan shifts towards sane economics
https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/06/04/president-erdogan-shifts-towards-sane-economics

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It is too late. The economy is already down the gutter. Neither foreign, or local investors want to invest under Erdoğan. He is fickle, temperamental, capricious, and a giant know-it-all, who will either seize your entire investment, or take some stupid decision and destory your profits, on a whim. Company owners are moving their assets off borders already.

There are many, many reasons for this. But I know one thing. He is not going to govern for another 5 years. He just doesn't has the lifespan left.
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