Disgusting, hate-inducing, unnecessary, unprofessional, zero military necessity. IDF seems to think so too. I failed to google if he (and his superiors) got more serious punishment than suspension. I hope they do. (BTW, I expected an actual grenade, not a flashbang)
WITH OVER A HUNDRED MORE CHILDREN KILLED IN WEST BANK BY SOLDIERS AND SETTLERS LED BY A RACIST GOVERNMENT MINISTER SETTLER WHO SAYS SORRY MOHAMMAD YOUR RIGHTS DON'T MATTERLiterally everything that goes on there is disgusting, hate-inducing, unnecessary, unprofessional. It doesn't even matter if it's in an area where Hamas doesn't even exist. It's all just naked terror and land grabbing
Also, are you actually trying to whatabout the massacre of October 7th with THIS?
Ben Shapiro?
https://twitter.com/MustafaBarghou1/status/1732792133147303943
God damn man
What human alive would tolerate being treated like a Palestinian
And what human alive would tolerate being treated like Jews were treated on Oct 7? Sorry, some restrained topless men don't impress me after all the footage I have seen both from Israel and Ukraine. It is A WAR. Don't apply peacetime logic and morals to it.
You're the only one trying to 9/11 every discussion about whether we should be cleansing innocent people from the face of the earth for shit they didn't do, just to appease your BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD desire for tribal retribution. How much bloodshed is enough? How much torture finally impresses you? When the Palestinians have finally been evicted from even this refugee camp, and they are like native americans smote to the wind, will you finally say "hmmm perhaps what we did was wrong" as you lie on your deathbed dreaming about how you were big boss because only you were hardcore enough to understand why genociding civilians was totally necessary, source: trust me bro I'm big boss
The fact that you are so hypocritical to decry Russians calling you all Nazis and turning your Ukrainian towns to rubble, then turn around and say "no my war is different to this war, peacetime logic and morals only apply to white people not amalekites"
like that brilliant religious atheist in chief is just the icing on the cake. Top fucking show m8
journalist stuff - I am too lazy to go through that. Israel, most likely, eliminated some hostile propagondists journalists on purpose (not that there is reliable evidence of that), but most are just victims of war or even combatants.
Hey there my clever friend you are
supporting war crimes again.
Especially egregious is that it's targeted against
civilians whose job it is
to document the war. "Everyone we murder are combatants (source: trust me bro)." This provides a hell of a smokescreen to try and get away with even more war crimes.
Just look at this bellend. Look how he stops the moment he notices the journalist. For they fear not the eyes of God, but only the shutter click of a camera lens.IDF really quaking in their boots when someone pulls out a high capacity panasonic with that long-distance scope. Better call in the fucking air strike, man's gonna get your close-up of such thrilling military operations as
Eliminating a highly trained 8 year old, master of covert lego block assemblyPre-meditated murder of three children who could have one day become military-aged malesKilling an 11 year old car passenger in broad daylight for no reason. But did he condemn Hamas?Flashbang, choke and black bag children for allegedly throwing rocks. IDF is so strong, it can choke the hamas out of children every time they can't prove they're innocent XDWhat about the tragic time an Israeli sniper accidentally took a deep breath, adjusted his sights, took aim and pulled the trigger, accidentally releasing a bullet which flew threw the air into a Palestinian 9 year old's head. Although it was definitely an accidental act of war, we must consider whether this child could have been an enemy combatant, or propagandist.You didn't address the American journalist being killed by a sniper and having her funeral subsequently raided by the IDF but I'm sure you have plenty of dossiers of evidence regarding her moonlight career as a terrorist propagandist that you're just keeping under wraps out of modesty
Palestinians actively use the status of journalists in their war tactics and many of those are just not journalists at all. Foreign journalists just LOVE that place, and when there are many people of a certain category in a dangerous place, a high number of them will die.
Yeah especially if you target them. Where does the IDF train its snipers, its spotters? Did they go to the school of USS Liberty or something? Sheesh
It sucks. But he should think about why this happened to him and what to do for something similar not to happen again.
A father digs through the ruins of his house to try and find his daughter.You: "Have you considered how this is really your fault?"
We are absolutely innocent victims, Israel is pure evil and I should conquer it all are not great answers. And... there are Syrians, Ukrainians, Yemenis, etc who suffer(ed) way more
wHatAbOuTIsM
Why is it whenever someone like you brings up the suffering of others it is never to advocate for doing more, but instead to advocate for caring less.
Actually... Nope. Not at all. If some Ukrainians will go and violently kill and rape some random Russian civilians I won't celebrate them as freaking heroes. I have moral clarity and know that such barbarity is never justifiable. And, believe it or not, if I see Israeli going door-to-door killing and raping, I won't be supporting that.
Nice to know you have such high moral standards
He responded that in the interests of maintaining warriors' morale and fighting fitness during armed conflict, it was permitted to "satisfy the evil inclination by lying with attractive Gentile women against their will".
His nomination on Monday as the military's head rabbi by its chief of staff revived public debate over Karim.
Yedioth Ahronoth, Israel's best-selling newspaper, weighed in with a front-page headline that read: "New chief military rabbi: rape is permissible in a war".
Karim is the current serving Rabbi for the IDF operation in Gaza and West Bank
For a look into Israel's security forces utilising rape as a tool, these are useful materials:
https://www.berghahnjournals.com/view/journals/conflict-and-society/9/1/arcs090105.xml - an academic study into rape allegations, barriers to reporting (both self-imposed and imposed by IDF forces) and the demographics of victims
https://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cerd/docs/ngos/OMCT.pdf - this one, specifically concerning female Palestinians in Israeli detention
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1016/j.rhm.2015.11.019 - this one, specifically concerning male Palestinians in Israeli detention
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-ngo-shut-down-reporting-sexual-assault-ex-us - Or this one, wherein Israeli security forces raided an NGO after publishing a report from a 15 year old claiming to have been raped by an IDF soldier
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/un-human-rights-office-opt-dramatic-rise-detention-palestinians-across-occupied-west-bank - or this UN Human Rights report, in which Palestinians were imprisoned neither in civil or military courts, beaten, abused, threatened with rape
Reports of torture as a means of extracting confessions arguably began early in the occupation, on evidence for the first decade. In June 1977 the Sunday Times claimed torture was used against the Arab population of the occupied territories. In early 1978 an employee of the US Consulate in East Jerusalem, Alexandra Johnson, sent two cables detailing evidence Israeli authorities were systematically using torture on West Bank suspects in Nablus, Ramallah, Hebron and the Russian compound of Jerusalem. Early reports indicated detainees were stripped naked and subject for long periods to cold showers or cold air ventilation. People were hung from meat hooks in Hebron and Ramallah. She concluded torture was applied at three rising levels of maltreatment, (a) level one: daily beatings with fists and sticks; (b) level two: alternate immersions of the victim in hot and cold water, beating of genitals and interrogation about twice daily over several hours; (c) level three: rotating teams of interrogators working on a nude person under detention by applying electrical devices, high frequency sonic noise, refrigeration, prolonged hanging by the hands or feet, and inserting objects into their penises or rectums. This last level was used on those who refused at earlier levels to denounce other Palestinians. 78% of a sample of 40 detainees in 1985 said they had been sexually molested, and 67% stated they had been humiliated on religious grounds. Former inmates of the secret detention centre Camp 1391, whose existence is not even officially acknowledged, claim sexual harassment, even rape, forms part of the interrogation techniques. The first important study was conducted by the first Palestinian NGO, al-Haq, in 1986, which focused on practices at the Al Fara'a Detention Centre.
It's a good thing journalists have only managed to survive filming IDF destroying their homes, killing their children, attacking their religious sites and hospitals, telling them to evacuate into convoys (
only to blow up them up), cut off their water and power. Because otherwise you might have to start thinking
Reminds me of when they seized a Palestinian man, branded him with a star of david and then arrested the Palestinian when he reported being abused
How much more can you just overlookAlso, why exactly would I want revenge on Palestinians? because they are pro-Russian? Not that much and them being pro-Russian doesn't influence the Ukrainian-Russian war much if at all. Israel is also somewhat pro-Russian because of many Russian Jew voters. Israeli politicians have to take them into account. And it influences our war to some degree. By your logic, on Oct 7, I should have been like "Those Jews are getting what they deserve for their friendship with Russia! Hope Bibi is happy about his dealings with Putin!"
You tell me. You don't have any basis for anything you support here, you just show up and throw mud at everything and everyone without ever once trying to justify your own position. It's just "there is no evidence IDF does anything wrong, but if there is evidence, the journalists are propagandists, and even if they weren't terrorists, the truth is it was an accident, but even if it wasn't an accident it was justified and you're just peace-afflicted civvies who don't understand my enlightened warrior sage kung fu which definitely excuses murder"
Actually, yes. It surprises me when armies are demonized for merely waging a war in which enemy civilians die\suffer as if there ways to wage war to avoid it. When everyone is accused of war crimes, actual war crimes lose their meaning.
Okay boss maybe you shouldn't support targeting civilians and journalists because:
it is a justified military tactic in a hostile urban environment - detain all men who may be combatants until proven otherwise. And those men aren't beaten, aren't tortured, aren't raped.
Targeting civilians until they're proven civilians (lmao what) is a war crime boss, as is beating them, torturing them and raping them.
Just by laws of probability, many of those partially naked men, directly or indirectly participated in an act of utter barbarity on Oct 7th and face the consequences of their EVIL actions. And yes, not all of them participated in it but it is how social species work - if part of your "tribe" does stuff, you'll face consequences, too.
Targeting civilians because they share the same race as a terrorist group is a war crime boss. Like imagine if the British treated the Irish the same way the Israelis treated Palestinians. IRA nearly killed our head of state. What was the response? Turn Ireland into glass? Pft, no. Police investigation. Imagine if everyone thought like you
"Ahhhh ISIS drove another truck through a Christmas market, we need to nuke Saudi Arabia, Carthago delenda est aaaaaaaa how dare you we need to kill everyone" [guns down children] I am defending myself!!! [blows up your house] you are endangering me [walks towards you] BACK AWAY NOW [destroys your assault olive trees]
When It saves the lives of YOUR soldiers it feels like a way better argument. Also, we are looking at the detaining part, keeping for a prolonged time is another topic entirely.
"Why did you war crimes?"
"It felt good"
Civilian proportion of deaths is higher than the average in all world conflicts in 20th century, data suggestsHaaretz published an analysis by Yagil Levy, a sociology professor at the Open University of Israel, which found that in three earlier campaigns in Gaza, in the period from 2012-22, the ratio of civilian deaths to the total of those killed in airstrikes hovered at about 40%. That ratio declined to 33% in a bombing campaign earlier this year, called Operation Shield and Arrow.
In the first three weeks of the current operation, Swords of Iron, the civilian proportion of total deaths rose to 61%, in what Levy described as “unprecedented killing” for Israeli forces in Gaza. The ratio is significantly higher than the average civilian toll in all the conflicts around the world during the 20th century, in which civilians accounted for about half the dead, according to Levy.
“The broad conclusion is that extensive killing of civilians not only contributes nothing to Israel’s security, but that it also contains the foundations for further undermining it,” Levy concluded. “The Gazans who will emerge from the ruins of their homes and the loss of their families will seek revenge that no security arrangements will be able to withstand.”
Mission accomplished boys. We did it. We finally killed terrorism
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