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[Sean Mirrsen]

quote:You burn The elf in the left hand with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is cracked by the heat!
The elf's left wrist has been cracked by the heat!
The elf's third finger, left hand has been badly charred!
The elf's fourth finger, left hand has been cracked by the heat!
You burn The elf in the right upper arm with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is charred!
The elf gives in to pain.
The elf falls over.
You burn The elf in the left lower arm with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
You burn The elf in the left upper arm with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is charred!
You burn The elf in the right upper arm with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
You burn The elf in the right lower leg with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
The elf's right knee has been crippled!
You burn The elf in the left hand with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
The elf's left wrist has been crippled!
The elf's second finger, left hand has been charred to a cinder!
The elf's third finger, left hand has been cracked by the heat!
The elf's fourth finger, left hand has been charred to a cinder!
You burn The elf in the right upper arm with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
You burn The elf in the right lower leg with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
You burn The elf in the right lower leg with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
The elf's right knee has been crippled again!
Are Nithefita, elf has bled to death.
You burn The elf in the head with your р®-Demonic Aluminum longsword of Swift Death-Їр!
It is partially incinerated!
The elf's right eye has been burned away!
The elf's left ear has been badly charred!
The elf's brain has been blackened by the heat!
Nemo Gicathilini, elf has been struck down.

This isn't a random quote. Just an idea I've recently had.

Right now, I've a template for 80 variants of "magic" weaponry, total of 8 prefixes and 8 suffixes (8x8=64, +8+8 for the single-prefix/suffix variants). Needless to say, even two weapons modded in such a way take quite a lot of space (80 entries each... ouch.). So, is it entirely practical (or useful at all) to expand this mod further?

I was going to include it as a "secret addition" to the Martial Arts mod, but it's clearly too much work for something that's quite possibly of no practical use.
Also, with there being no way to define availability of weapons (or indeed, their cost), the "usual" weapons become more rare than full sets of artifact adamantine armor.

Alright, I've finished the 8 weapon types I initially planned.

I'll make a "test" release, like a proof of concept.
There's no entity file bundled, but a list of all weapons with proper tags for copypasting into a civ has been included. Remember, it's 640 weapons.

Download link.

Side note: SIX FRIGGIN' HUNDRED AND FORTY WEAPONS!!!!!! :eek:!!!!! No, I must really be insane to do all that.

[ March 04, 2008: Message edited by: Sean Mirrsen ]

[Wiles]

How do you get a prefix? Is it made out of demonic aluminium? Any weapons I've made have had the material listed first ie "steel demonic scepter"

[ March 03, 2008: Message edited by: Wiles ]

[Sean Mirrsen]

A prefix is an [ADJECTIVE:]. The only use of it in vanilla DF is "large Iron daggers" carried by kobolds. Trapcomps also use it extensively.

But still, what of the mod? Anybody think it might be interesting?

[Wiles]

Thanks Sean!

I think it could be a neat addition to the game. Although I think it would be good if they were somewhat rare. Maybe give them to "guardians" kinda like your shard shields.

[ March 03, 2008: Message edited by: Wiles ]

[Sean Mirrsen]

I'll have to make a damn large amount of guardians...  :p

I mean, uh...

Shortsword
Longsword
Battleaxe
Warhammer
Spear
Mace
Pike
Whip

At least 8 weapons...  80 entries each...  640 weapons. I'm half done with them btw, but I find it hard to believe that I'll be able to make a use for them...

Guardians, huh?

I guess that treasure chest mod could probably work...  Or just a race of extraplanars...

[Deon]

Make a creature like "mimic" in dnd - a chest with treasures who kills treasure hunters. Give it low speed but good damage reflection (maybe flamebreath too like magic missile to get rid of archers/throwers?).
Make it a rare creature and tie all your cool artifacts to its itemcorpse.

Just an idea.

And please finish this part of mod, it's great.

[ March 03, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

[Sean Mirrsen]

Alright, I'm continuing along.

I've done short and long swords, spears, maces, warhammers, and battle axes so far. Had to make some modifications to some of the suffixes because of different initial weapon properties, so there's more total additions, but still 80 variants per weapon.

Some of the stuff is a bit awkward (just no way to make two different damage types in one weapon), but most of it is fairly balanced. Not for adventure mode, because prices are only material-dependent, but in forts you'll have to get a lot more materials to make those things.

[BlueDestiny]

Aren't the only "magic" effects you can apply fire damage and increased damage?

[Kagus]

And cold damage, mustn't forget that.

And how many times are you going to change this thread's title, Sean?

[Sean Mirrsen]

As much as necessary to attract attention, I guess.  

And yeah, mostly it's just damage increases (and decreases), and different damage types, but there's also weight, critical boost, and stick chance. And a cool name to boot. I could make even more pref/suf combos, but this is alsmost too much as it is.

Would it be too much of a spoiler to post all the prefixes and suffixes and their effects? I'm not sure I could do balance without some smart program to make a database of items from the raws (and alter them by bulk), but I could accept some suggestions at least...

[Sean Mirrsen]

The guardians idea won't work. The game always chooses the last item of the itemcorpse entries.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Alright, I've put the mod up....

It has the following weapons:

shortsword
longsword
spear
pike
battle axe
war hammer
flanged mace
whip

Whips turned out to be rather useless on most occasions, except cool stuff like a Fierce whip of Legend that almost quadruples the base damage, and a Fierce Whip of Swift Death that triples it, and adds a major critboost to that. The inability to add more than one damage type hurt whips the most. The most useless weapon is a Weak whip of Misfortune that has 1 damage and has a 10% stick chance... Good for training though, I suppose...

[Mr.Person]

quote:Originally posted by Sean Mirrsen:

Also, with there being no way to define availability of weapons (or indeed, their cost), the "usual" weapons become more rare than full sets of artifact adamantine armor.

[ March 04, 2008: Message edited by: Sean Mirrsen ]

You can define rarity in entity_default.txt. Also, you can do something weird... such as taking the [SHARP] tag off of obsidian and adding to to some kind of magic stone you add. Then just stick [CAN_STONE] on all your weapons.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Magic stone is, well, stupid. It will add nothing except a name that I can already achieve with prefixes. And it will not have the varied properties of metals.

And rarity tags don't work on weapons, only armor. Same as the value tags...

[Keilden]

Wait there is a PREFIX command? Sweet now I can make some new stuff.