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[robaal]

Hi,

I was wondering if there are some special requirements for coal to exist? I mined some tunnels to the bottom and top of the map and couldn't find any (I did find plenty silver/copper/zinc and some gems).
I didn't cross the underground river though...

Also, apparently some "small creature" can fly through walls, as one of the dwarves kept
spamming "...cancels Hunt for Small Creature: Could not find path." and standing in a corner; I noticed a lime dot appearing for a second on the other side of the wall...

[RPB]

All the good stuff (and the bad stuff) is deeper to the east, across the river and the chasm and such. Build bridges to go across.

[UncleSporky]

Is there any best way to mine for things?  Right now I'm just doing a lot of straight lines into the mountain, sometimes vertical, sometimes horizontal, offshooting from each other...

[Janne Joensuu]

quote:Originally posted by robaal:
<STRONG>Hi,

I was wondering if there are some special requirements for coal to exist? I mined some tunnels to the bottom and top of the map and couldn't find any (I did find plenty silver/copper/zinc and some gems).
I didn't cross the underground river though...</STRONG>

It is expensive in wood, but in a proper Furnace building you can turn wood into Charcoal, which can be used as fuel instead of coal.

[robaal]

Yeah, I knew about charcoal but I wasn't attacked or anything so there were better uses for wood.

And for some reason I thought that the map ended not far from the river... the "mini-map" suggested it, at least.

[Eagleon]

Definately not, heh heh. Be careful! Remember Moria.  

If you wanted to be ultra-efficient about exploiting your poor mountain, you could dig out parallel lines with two tiles left alone between them.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XOOOOOOOOOOXOO ->
XOOOOOOOOOOXOO
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

That way you see -everything- you haven't excavated in exploration, and can get all the pretty gems. Not very friendly to expansion, though.

[ August 16, 2006: Message edited by: Eagleon ]

[Demon]

The mini-map lies. This is a feature, not a bug.

[karnot]

quote: If you wanted to be ultra-efficient about exploiting your poor mountain, you could dig out parallel lines with two tiles left alone between them.

Dont see how that is efficient.

[UncleSporky]

quote:Originally posted by karnot:
<STRONG>
Dont see how that is efficient.</STRONG>

You see the ore when you mine next to it, so while searching it's best to just expose as much as possible with minimal digging.  It's a great idea and I'll use it now.

[karnot]

Normally i get so much ore i dont know what to do with it, and some people want more ? Well...

[TrevorGood]

How is Coal Fuel better then Charcoal? Does it one piece of Coal Fuel last for more then 1 smelt/metalsmithing process or something?

[Janne Joensuu]

quote:Originally posted by TrevorGood:
<STRONG>How is Coal Fuel better then Charcoal? Does it one piece of Coal Fuel last for more then 1 smelt/metalsmithing process or something?</STRONG>

To make Charcoal, you need 1 piece of wood, with coal you need to mine coal from the mountain. Inside the mountain, wood is a precious resource. That alone makes it worth it.

[TrevorGood]

But you forget, in order to make coal usable you have to smelt it, which requires charcoal, or another piece of Coal Fuel.

[AlStar]

Yes, but the end result is two pieces of coal fuel, netting you one piece of fuel when all is said and done.

[TrevorGood]

Aha! So thats the catch, thank you. I guess I didnt' keep a close enough eye on the process to tell.